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    Who goes back with Jesus in the pre-tribulation rapture?

    This part isn’t debatable, it’s in the text. Jesus said he would come again to receive YOU (disciples), not people 2000 years in the future. There is no way anyone can reason that this “come again” is not Jesus coming at the resurrection.
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    Who goes back with Jesus in the pre-tribulation rapture?

    Commentaries are some man’s opinion on the Bible and from my experience with them, most of them are intentionally written to mislead people from the truth. God never told us to “rightly divide” commentaries. Read your Bible and never ever let some other man tell you what the Bible says.
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    Who goes back with Jesus in the pre-tribulation rapture?

    Why are you mentioning ascending into heaven? Those verses don’t say anything about Jesus ascending into heaven.
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    Who goes back with Jesus in the pre-tribulation rapture?

    When Jesus said "I will come again, and receive you unto myself," He was speaking to the eleven men in that room. And He did come again to them — at the resurrection. And the Bible clearly says we have a body available in heaven right now. 2 Corinthians 5:1 — "For we know that if our earthly...
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    Who goes back with Jesus in the pre-tribulation rapture?

    I don’t think so. The marriage supper is where the brides are chosen according to the parable of the wedding feast.
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    Who goes back with Jesus in the pre-tribulation rapture?

    @CrowCross and @Davidpt Jhn 14:2 In my Father's house are many mansions: if it were not so, I would have told you. I go to prepare a place for you. Jhn 14:3 And if I go and prepare a place for you, I will come again, and receive you unto myself; that where I am, there ye may be also. These...
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    Flat Earth Theory

    No, I'm not including you in them, I don't consider you part of the elite.
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    Flat Earth Theory

    David did you not start this by saying "You just committed a very serious sin before God." And I asked you to check yourself before you accuse me, and you consider that anti-Christian. One of the many reasons flat earthers have 0 credibility with the rest of the world.
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    Flat Earth Theory

    I think this is a situation where you should first cast out the beam out of thine own eye; and then shalt thou see clearly to cast out the mote out of thy brother's eye.
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    Flat Earth Theory

    I've come to understand that people can use the Bible to prove almost anything they want, and once they've done it, there's little chance anyone will talk them out of it. My problem with flat-earth Christians is that the evidence they use to "prove" it isn't proof at all. And yes, I agree —...
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    Flat Earth Theory

    How do you know flat earth isn’t just another lie? Surely you realize the elite pieces of garbage put flat earth out to divide people even further.
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    Flat Earth Theory

    lfh lfh lfh
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    Flat Earth Theory

    I don’t know Peter. I don’t keep up with flat earth theory too much. I’m more interested in understanding why people care what the shape of the earth is.
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    Who goes back with Jesus in the pre-tribulation rapture?

    The bride becomes ready when the old husband dies and she's free to marry another. See Romans 7:1–4. A new man is formed in a believer at the new birth — and Jesus will not commit adultery to produce him. The old husband has to die first.
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    Flat Earth Theory

    Liquids don't seek level. They lack rigidity. They take the shape of the force acting on them. I don’t even remember why we’re discussing this now lol.
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    Flat Earth Theory

    You said the earth is a circle and yet has four corners. Those can't both be literal — a circle has no corners. So one is a figure of speech. Which one? And whichever you pick, what's the rule that tells you the other isn't also figurative? I ask because in thirty years of studying this book...
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    Who goes back with Jesus in the pre-tribulation rapture?

    Believers are already married to Jesus right now and should be eating at the marriage supper of the Lamb right now.
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    Flat Earth Theory

    I agree with you on this too. One issue have with flat earthers is the so called biblical evidence that proves the earth is flat they claim. I haven’t seen any biblical evidence that proves flat or globe. And I’ll say once again, I’m not flat earth or globe earth, I have no idea what we live on...
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    Flat Earth Theory

    I know why they do what they do, it’s external force working on them. My point is water is not always level.