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  1. rebuilder 454

    Connecting the dots = a pre-tribulation rapture.

    Look at how he twisted that passage. It says he SENDS TO GATHER saints IN HEAVEN. THEN he comes later...AHEM, ....insert drum roll please....WITH THE SAINTS. Plain crazy, that postrib rapture invented theory.
  2. rebuilder 454

    Only one rapture of all the saints, and only one second coming of Christ

    Jesus and his disciples were Jews. The conversations they had did not center on any non Jewish feasts, or markers, or timetables. Both Pentecost and passover JEWISH events coincided with prophecy. It is Unmistakable that the feast are tied into prophecy..
  3. rebuilder 454

    Connecting the dots = a pre-tribulation rapture.

    In typology, the ark would be the dwelling place of God. The ark is not God. Ark would be a type of heaven.
  4. rebuilder 454

    Connecting the dots = a pre-tribulation rapture.

    The setting is not prewrath. It is normal life. Postribs teach one coming. The second coming is postwrath. So a "prewrath model" does not fit. Ironically the "one coming" theory does not fit any model.
  5. rebuilder 454

    Connecting the dots = a pre-tribulation rapture.

    The gathering of rev 14:14 has no resurrection. A "catching up" only. The second coming of rev 19 on the white horses has no resurrection either., or rapture.
  6. rebuilder 454

    Only one rapture of all the saints, and only one second coming of Christ

    JSYK In the Bible, the wheat harvest first fruits refer to the earliest portion of the wheat crop that the Israelites presented to God as a holy offering during the Feast of Weeks (also called Shavuot or Pentecost) ****Meaning and PracticeThe Offering: **** Celebrated roughly seven weeks after...
  7. rebuilder 454

    Connecting the dots = a pre-tribulation rapture.

    I am asking you for an answer. Then you go unto how my mind works? Again, such a simple question to you: Since you and every postribber say the flood represents the trib, where is the rapture, in the flood analogy, that you guys say is the trib???? Does it not HAVE TO BE POSTFLOOD????
  8. rebuilder 454

    Connecting the dots = a pre-tribulation rapture.

    And don't forget, Noah is in the ark, prior to the flood. So Noah is gathered into the ark pre-trib. We also know that the "ark", in typology, would be a type of heaven. Postrb rapture doctrine, would logically have Noah delivered/ gathered/ raptured, post flood. Making out God to be confused...
  9. rebuilder 454

    Connecting the dots = a pre-tribulation rapture.

    Where is the rapture in what you laid out? You just framed the tribulation, as being illustrated by Jesus, in His flood analogy. So, in your reasoning, you have Noah taken out of the earth, after the flood, in your postribber workbook?. A post flood/ postrib rapture ? You begin to see the...
  10. rebuilder 454

    Connecting the dots = a pre-tribulation rapture.

    There is no rapture in any of what you laid out. Only judgement.
  11. rebuilder 454

    Connecting the dots = a pre-tribulation rapture.

    You posted a passage, you claim is saying, "before the flood God comes in Judgement". There is no truth in that interpretation, as applied to either the 7yr trib or the rapture. Are you aware that postribbers need a model where Noah is removed/ raptured postflood? And that in the great...
  12. rebuilder 454

    Only one rapture of all the saints, and only one second coming of Christ

    The gathering of rev 14;14 can not possibly be rhe rapture of tge church. The Church has Jesus as our firstfruits. The gathering of rev 14;14 has 144,000 ETHNIC JEWS as firstfruits. It can only be a Jewish gathering. Wheat firstfruits preceds wheat harvest. That wheat harvestvwill never...
  13. rebuilder 454

    Only one rapture of all the saints, and only one second coming of Christ

    The cross took place in the timing of the feasts. The pouring out of the Holy Spirit also was at the timing of the feasts . I would not be so quick to discount Gods time clock and markers.
  14. rebuilder 454

    Only one rapture of all the saints, and only one second coming of Christ

    Then don't ever call it the word of God since you believe it is not. You actually defend the notion that Jesus did not know earth is a planet?
  15. rebuilder 454

    For WHAT purpose Does the Lord Descend FROM High Heavens TO lower Heavens Clouds?

    That is against the testimony of Jesus. If he was not fully deity and fully man,John would still be weeping in Rev 5. It says " no man was found in heaven or earth worthy to open the seals". There is no other God- man in the universe. Jesus is fully God and fully man. All flesh is resurrected...
  16. rebuilder 454

    Connecting the dots = a pre-tribulation rapture.

    Nope. And that passage in mat 24 can not be the rapture for many reasons. 1) angels do the gathering, and the sender(JESUS), stays and does not participate.So that alone is a huge huge problem. Added to that is that the gathering is in heaven, not earth. 2)that coming can only be after the...
  17. rebuilder 454

    Connecting the dots = a pre-tribulation rapture.

    All bible study is connecting the dots.
  18. rebuilder 454

    Only one rapture of all the saints, and only one second coming of Christ

    The bible is written by the Holy Spirit. So no, you can not honestly say what you are presenting. Rev 3 10 Because thou hast kept the word of my patience, I also will keep thee from the hour of temptation, which shall come upon all the world, to try them that dwell upon the earth Jesus was...
  19. rebuilder 454

    For WHAT purpose Does the Lord Descend FROM High Heavens TO lower Heavens Clouds?

    To fetch his bride. Mat 25 Vivid depiction of the bride meeting the groom, then going to the fathers house.