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    What God Says About the False Pre-trib Rapture

    "Before the flood, one taken, one left". (Your doctrine, has the bizarre twist of Gods word to pervert that into a pretrib wicked man rapture and that half the planet is redeemed. ) Ridiculous a babe in Christ with a bible can see right through it. Lot removed pretrib. ( your doctrine does...
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    Feast of Trumpets.

    Interesting side note Rosh HashanahMeaning: The Hebrew name means "head of the year".Timing: It falls in September or October on the Gregorian calendar. In 2026, it begins at sunset on Friday, September 11, and ends at nightfall on Sunday, September 13.Current Year: This celebration ushers in...
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    Connecting the dots = a pre-tribulation rapture.

    Context makes a difference. 51 Behold, I shew you a mystery; We shall not all sleep, but we shall all be changed, 52 In a moment, in the twinkling of an eye, at the last trump: for the trumpet shall sound, and the dead shall be raised incorruptible, and we shall be changed. Definately the...
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    Connecting the dots = a pre-tribulation rapture.

    You posted a passage where Jesus sends angels to gather after the trib. He does not go, as It SAYS in that passage. He sends angels to gather. That gathering is IN HEAVEN according to your passage. You are actually agreeing with a pretrib rapture, as , in that pretrib rapture JESUS...
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    What God Says About the False Pre-trib Rapture

    Yep Both postribs and Catholics actually base their eschatology on those dead men of the early church. Early church doctrine was rife with error. Both of those groups are anti pretrib. Makes sense that Catholics and postribbers are getting their doctrine from the same place.
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    What God Says About the False Pre-trib Rapture

    Plus their assertions are wrong. "One coming" ...the actual backbone of their entire doctrine that is blatantly false. They have no clue if the purpose of the trib, Nor the purpose of the rapture. ...not a clue.
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    What God Says About the False Pre-trib Rapture

    QUOTE "Brethren in Christ Jesus: The false pre-trib rapture is a theory from men. It was first preached in a Christian Church in 1830's Great Britain by John Nelson Darby, and he suggested it as a 'secret' rapture, which he later recanted. Investigative journalist Dave Macpherson documented...
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    What God Says About the False Pre-trib Rapture

    Postribber methods. Embarrassing SMH
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    What God Says About the False Pre-trib Rapture

    QUOTE 5. it is a doctrine for the "five foolish virgins" who did not carry a spare vessel of the Oil in order to meet The Bridegroom (Jesus Christ) to go with the Oil in their lamps (Matthew 25). The Oil represents The Holy Spirit. They don't listen to The Holy Spirit; they listen to men...
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    What God Says About the False Pre-trib Rapture

    Every one of your dynamics is false under honest investigation. "One coming theory" is a man made non biblical lie. Jesus said BEFORE THE FLOOD Is the setting of his coming...ironically, ALL POSTRIBS frame the flood, as the 7 yr tribulation.( if that is not enough, Jesus made sure with more...
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    What God Says About the False Pre-trib Rapture

    A better title would be " by omitting the pretrib rapture verses, I build a case for my postrib rapture theory"
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    Who goes back with Jesus in the pre-tribulation rapture?

    QUOTE "No, Daniel 12 says blessed are those who make it to day 1335. The GT ( all of it, including His wrath) is over at this time. And if there was no one left behind, who would repopulate the earth (since all the raptured have received new bodies that DO NOT procreate) during the Millennial...
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    Who goes back with Jesus in the pre-tribulation rapture?

    rebuilder 454 said: "Those in the innumerable number had dirty robes. They are the 5 foolish virgins of mat 25. They were left behind." Your reply; "No, Rev. 7:14 says they have been washed by His blood." Hello...their dirty robes got washed by the blood. They needed to be washed They were...
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    Who goes back with Jesus in the pre-tribulation rapture?

    QUOTE "The oil represented the Holy Spirit. So many people claim to be Christians are not born again and will be shocked when they miss the rapture; but will be saved, just have to go through it." You did get the oil part correct. However you are trying to say the 5 foolish were unredeemed...
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    Who goes back with Jesus in the pre-tribulation rapture?

    QUOTE "We are not conquered at any time by Satan, he is already defeated. He conquers reprobates, those with his mark. Any people during his reign who refuse the mark are certainly persecuted and may be martyred - but Dan. 12 says some make it to see day 1335." Satan killed most of the...
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    Who goes back with Jesus in the pre-tribulation rapture?

    I think as we are rising up in the pretrib rapture they will still be mocking like the Pharisees at the cross. They will be gazing up, watching the bottom of our feet,saying, " ha ha ha that is not the rapture!!!!!"
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    Who goes back with Jesus in the pre-tribulation rapture?

    Mat 24. One taken, one left behind. Who was banging on the ark door to get in?
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    Who goes back with Jesus in the pre-tribulation rapture?

    Even the wicked, recieve their resurrected bodies back, at the GWTJ. The resurrected firstfruits from paradise make up resurrected saints already in heaven. We KNOW the dead in Christ are resurrected. Since postribs can not, and never have been able, to accurately prove a postrib rapture, and...
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    Who goes back with Jesus in the pre-tribulation rapture?

    In mat 24, the before the flood gathering, who is taken and who is left? Half the church?
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    Who goes back with Jesus in the pre-tribulation rapture?

    Ignore button. That guy is a waste of thought. Amil bizarre nonsense. I can tell you they have an agenda It is coming in here and messing with pretribbers.