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Turmoil/disaster/loss in our life does not alter the teachings of Scripture What does 1 Cor 15:1-4, Eph 1:13 teach you ? To me it teaches that those who :- Who hear, believe, understand, trust that Christ died, was buried then rose 3 days later so their sins can be forgiven ARE saved & ARE HS...

We are talking TRULY IGNORANT Where does Rev 20:15 teach the TRULY IGNORANT go to the LOF ? Nowhere buddy, nor does Rom 3. Ya welcome to try again NOSAS :)

So there is no confusion Confirming that YES, you do believe that the WICKED are part of the DEAD IN CHRIST 1 Thess 4:16For the Lord himself shall descend from heaven with a shout, with the voice of the archangel, and with the trump of God: and the dead in Christ shall rise first:

Titus 2:11-12 11For the grace of God that bringeth salvation hath appeared to all men, 12Teaching us that, denying ungodliness and worldly lusts, we should live soberly, righteously, and godly, in this present world; .. 11:- I understand that IF someone HEARS the Gospel, UNDERSTANDS the Gospel...

So I don't mis-understand you 1 Thess 4:16For the Lord himself shall descend from heaven with a shout, with the voice of the archangel, and with the trump of God: and the dead in Christ shall rise first: Do you believe the WICKED are part of the DEAD IN CHRIST ?

""Yes. Even these mythical so called "ignorant persons" you speak of."" Yes, how can they possibly know what is required to enter eternal life if they were IGNORANT !!! How could they possibly know they were breaking commandments if they were IGNORANT !!! .. LOF is for those who HEAR the Gospel...

In that case there was NO NEED for Christ to teach Paul since Paul could have EASILY been taught by John. So why did Paul even need to bother writing Gal 1:11-12 ? Why did Paul even need to bother teaching 1 Cor 15:1-4, Eph 1:13 ? Gal 2:2 Why did Paul even need to bother telling John etc if John...

""So now I'm a clown."" What does 1 Cor 15:1-4, Eph 1:13 teach ? I see you were unable to answer the above question. Want to try again ?

There is none good no not one. All have committed sin. There is none righteous. Read Romans chapter 3. There are no exceptions. None are righteous. None seek after God. VS 19 "There is no fear of God before their eyes". .. Acts 17:30 And the times of this ignorance God winked at; but now...

:Laughingoutloud::clap I enjoy questioning the clowns in the NOSAS circus. .. What does 1 Cor 15:1-4, Eph 1:13 teach ? No hurry, take your time pheart

""and all liars"" Looks like you & I are going to the LOF since we both have lied at some time in our life and if you've ever lied you are a liar. 1 Cor 15:1-4, Eph 1:13 won't save us. Agree ? :)

I read and believe the teachings of Christ through Paul that apply to me re Salvation and NOT the whole Bible otherwise I'd have to sacrifice animals as well.

""What are you trying to prove with all of those questions?"" The 'devils' can't be saved even they they believeKNOW who Christ is yet we can and are WHEN we hear, trust and BELIEVE the gospel, they can't. I assume you can list the SAVING GOSPEL verses that apply today, please list them :)

Do you believe the WICKED are included in the highlighted words . 1 Thess 4: 16For the Lord himself shall descend from heaven with a shout, with the voice of the archangel, and with the trump of God: and the dead in Christ shall rise first: 17Then we which are alive and remain shall be caught...

""It seams in your view if a Christian sins right before they die they would perish..."" Not my view at all. 1 Cor 15:1-4, Eph 1:13 teaches that a believer IS saved, IS sealed by hearing, trusting, believing the Gospel I don't see anywhere in the teachings of Paul that teach anything else is...

""So u r saying Christ will appear for a twinkling of an eye?""" 'twinkling of an eye' is the speed at which believers are raised. 1 Cor15:52In a moment, in the twinkling of an eye, at the last trump: for the trumpet shall sound, and the dead shall be raised incorruptible, and we shall be...

ONLY Christ Gal 1:11-12 taught Paul the Gospel 1 Cor 15:1-4 And that Gospel teaches what is required to be saved and Eph 1:13, Eph 4:30 sealed And we ALL in some way Eph 4:30 grieve the HS when we sin etc which we ALL do. Apart from hear, trust, believe the Gospel where does Paul teach that a...

""I dont think this is even a realistic scenario."" Correct because an Eph1:13 SEALED believer can do NOTHING to become UNsealed. They are sealed by FAITH and not by what they do/don't. Correct because ALL past & present Eph 1:13 sealed believers will be taken before the MOTB comes into force...

Which verses teach that a Eph 1:13 SEALED believe will not be deceived ? Verses please :)

I believe the teachings of who Christ Acts 9:15 selected as my Rom 11:13 Apostle & my Rom 15:16 Minister to teach me the saving Gospel 1 Cor 15:1-4, Eph 1:13 that Christ taught to Paul Gal 1:11:12 and the not ramblings of ignorant men