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Read the Old Testament.

Fair enough. I think lobbying should be outlawed. It's legalized bribery.

How do you know?

The New York Post and CBS are spam bots?

I suspect she's being blackmailed. She didn't just challenge Trump on Epstein. She also spoke out against the Israel lobby.

In that case, Christians should be apolitical. There's no politician that's moral. They're all crooked.

The only part that gets me is the fact that millions of Christians in this country really believe Trump is a Christian. I don't know him personally, but I've followed him for decades. Going all the way back to when he was a regular guest on Howard Stern's show, among other things. I can...

I see. But how does this verse apply to me criticizing Trump? Should I not criticize him or his policies merely because he won the election?

Now when you say obey, does that mean they shouldn't criticize their leaders?

MTG has a falling out with Trump over the Epstein files. Now she's resigning in January. :IDK:

But what does that mean in practice? Does it mean Christians can't oppose their political leaders?

You still haven't answered my question. You're not arguing in good faith, Matthias.

Only if I'm a politician.

So what was your point in posting thast verse in a politics thread?

What does that have to do with what we're talking about? I clarified my position when asked, but you won't offer me the same deference.

So when you posted that verse in response to me complaining about our government, what were you trying to say? You said that our political leaders are placed there by God, and that all of this is temporary, and that I should instead focus my attention towards the kingdom of God. I guess I'm a...

Yes.

In the context of politics, yes.

Then why did you quote scripture that essentially says not to worry about wordly matters? You've said yourself that it's all temporary. I agree that it's temporary, but I think it still matters.