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The Angel of Exodus 23:20 is Yohannei the Immerser according to the Meshiah himself in all three synoptic Gospel accounts. Matthew 11:10 ASV 10 This is he, of whom it is written, Behold, I send my messenger before thy face, Who shall prepare thy way before thee. Matthew 11:10 N/A-W/H 10 ουτος...

Yes, I am familiar with wisdom writings, and certainly Proverbs: what you are missing is that the Torah is full of Logos, which is only understood from the Logic of the Father within the context of the Rhema spoken/written Word. The Logos is the one and only one-of-a-kind Son of the Father and...

??? Are you saying that by "we" you mean yourself and chokmah? (wisdom?), a force that you have tapped into? Do you understand that the Son, the Logos, is the Wisdom of Elohim? (see 1Cor 1:24-29).

Who is we? I did not learn that at all: every human is created by proxy in Gen 2:7, and Elohim reserved the residue of the Spirit unto Himself until the time appointed comes when the errant son or daughter is born from above in Meshiah, in the image and likeness of Elohim. These things I learned...

The Gospel is literally the Good News or Good Tidings, and it is surely addressed in the Torah, which apparently you have no need for. The Gospel is truly about learning how to walk pleasing to the Father, which takes a spiritual understanding of His Torah, for His Torah is spiritual, just as...

Your final statement is most important: for what if "Luke", (a.k.a. "the Physician"), is actually one of Paul's scribes? (or, as they say, amanuensis), like Tertius for the book of Romans? There is also strong evidence that the Gospel now called Luke may actually be the written Gospel account of...

Question: Do you believe Paul wrote the epistle to the Hebrews?

Where and when did He speak the words to Meshiah? Any scripture quotes? Okay, but what about the question in the OP?

When did the Father speak the decree of Psalm 2:7 to the Meshiah or Christos, His Anointed One? Psalms 2:7 KJV 7 I will declare the decree: the LORD hath said unto me, Thou art my Son; this day have I begotten thee. Hebrews 1:5 KJV 5 For unto which of the angels said he at any time, Thou art...

If I am not the type to formulate doctrine based on numerology, (as I just said several posts back), then why would you think I would believe your doctrine based on numerology? It doesn't prove anything, it's just cherry-picked occasions where you find threes, either that or force a way to find...

Hi Berean, is that an answer to what I posted just before your reply? or is that an answer to the poll question?

Okay, what about this WORD: Exodus 20:3 WLC לֹֽ֣א יִהְיֶֽה־ לְךָ֛֩ אֱלֹהִ֥֨ים אֲחֵרִ֖֜ים עַל־ פָּנָֽ֗יַ You shall have no other elohim to/unto/against My face עַל ‛al BDB Definition: 1) upon, on the ground of, according to, on account of, on behalf of, concerning, beside, in addition to...

Hmmm... the first one is interesting. However the second, in the earliest Greek Uncial texts, contains the nomen sacrum for Theon/Theos instead of full plene spellings. John 1:1 1 εν αρχη ην ο λογος και ο λογος ην προς τον Θ̅Ν και Θ̅C ην ο λογος

You should already know that I am not the type to form doctrine based on numerology.

Yes, I agree for the most part, but please understand that in that response I was speaking to a Jewish monotheist believer in Meshiah. Thus believer is the key and what I meant when I responded to him. Ask him and he will no doubt confirm to you that he believes not only John but all the...

No need to squirm, as I just showed you, I am certainly not the Judge: it is him you need to worry about, and I strongly suggest that you pray and study out my previous response to you on your own for your own benefit. My little creed is all scripture, even bold, emphatic, clear-as-day...

Agreed, up to the point where you left off, but the Eternal Son is the Word-Memra-Logos of the Father who is ever in the bosom of the Father, and therefore he is not a man, and therefore not the Meshiah or Christos. He is the very Anointing whom the Father placed upon the Meshiah-Anointed One at...

One word that has been stated at least twice now: AGENCY. But apparently Trinitarians find that they must ignore the principle for some reason. Deuteronomy 18:17-19 RNKJV 18:17 And YHWH said unto me, They have well spoken that which they have spoken. 18:18 I will raise them up a Prophet from...

In Jewish monotheism neither the Living YHWH nor Father would even appear on the drawing because He is the only true El, omnipresent, beyond the heavens and the heaven of the heavens, non-corporeal, non-anthropomorphic, unbegotten, without beginning or end, Eternal Living Spirit.

Now that this poll is over I think we may actually already have incidentally done such a poll within this one. The preaching of the many herein, those among the professed Trinitarians, lays out for us what they claim by their own arguments and opinions. All that needs to be done is to take those...