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  1. jeffweeder

    Connecting the dots = a pre-tribulation rapture.

    Yes confirmed. Paul teaches according to the Lords own word recorded in the Gospels, Jn 6 40 For this is My Father’s will and purpose, that everyone who sees the Son and believes in Him [as Savior] will have eternal life, and I will raise him up [from the dead] on the last day.” Jn 12 48...
  2. jeffweeder

    Connecting the dots = a pre-tribulation rapture.

    Hi Taken I agree I agree He comes with all the Holy Angels with him in the Glory of his Father. Not the glorified bride. The souls of those believers who are under his care will then be raised, and along with the living saints will be glorified with a body like his glorified body, Marriage...
  3. jeffweeder

    Connecting the dots = a pre-tribulation rapture.

    Of course, :clmSmlx Starting from v15 shows you where Paul is getting his information. 15 For we say this to you by the Lord’s [own] word, that we who are still alive and remain until the coming of the Lord, will in no way precede [into His presence] those [believers] who have fallen asleep...
  4. jeffweeder

    Connecting the dots = a pre-tribulation rapture.

    When Jesus first promised to come back again in the Gospels, where does he refer to returning on a white horse??? Maybe He didn't think it was important mentioning. So what important factors did he mention about his return. He would return on the last day to raise us AND judge the others...
  5. jeffweeder

    Simple proof that the rapture occurs on the Last Day, which is a post tribulation rapture

    Paul taught according to the lord's own word in regard to his coming again in 1Thess 4 and 2Thess 1. You must believe he and Jesus taught 2 comings without ever differentiating between the two. The fact is that when Jesus comes again, we will be like him for we shall see him as he is. That...
  6. jeffweeder

    Pretrib fallacies

    What do you mean IF? The scriptures I referred to state a particular Hour, a particular day being the last day, and the sentencing of the wicked as being inseparable when Jesus comes again to raise us. We are raised and glorified while the rest are raised and condemned......when he comes again...
  7. jeffweeder

    Pretrib fallacies

    The sentence happens at the same hour on the last day when the Lord comes again to raise us. Jn chap - 5,6 and 12. See also Matt 25 and 2Thess 1
  8. jeffweeder

    Connecting the dots = a pre-tribulation rapture.

    I doubt very much that God will execute his judgment in that manner :rain?:
  9. jeffweeder

    Connecting the dots = a pre-tribulation rapture.

    It will be according to your pre tribulation. The wicked who marry and eat and drink are swept away with Gods wrath/flood Lol So shall be the day the Son of man is revealed.
  10. jeffweeder

    Connecting the dots = a pre-tribulation rapture.

    Thanks Eric. This guy either deliberately misrepresents what I say or totally ignores the questions asked him. The scriptures he has taken seriously are those in Revelation that he has personally interpreted it seems to me. Crow, 38 For as in those days before the flood they were eating...
  11. jeffweeder

    Connecting the dots = a pre-tribulation rapture.

    Why not ask me to clarify instead of misrepresenting me? Tribulation of Noah's day 5 The Lord saw that the wickedness (depravity) of man was great on the earth, and that every imagination or intent of the thoughts of his heart were only evil continually. 6 The Lord regretted that He had made...
  12. jeffweeder

    Connecting the dots = a pre-tribulation rapture.

    ???????? That is not what I said and you know it. Have a nice day
  13. jeffweeder

    Connecting the dots = a pre-tribulation rapture.

    My whole post 201 tells you. Once you understand its about God's coming visitation in judgment (whether Noah or Jesus) you should be able to discern that day will be after all tribulation. Trying make this into a pretrib coming would be um delusional.
  14. jeffweeder

    Connecting the dots = a pre-tribulation rapture.

    It does matter because righteous Noah knew judgment day was coming that would take all life. They way to survive was to spend years building a ship to save his family and the animals. This is also the nature of the day of the coming of the Son of man. 2Thess 1 9 These people will pay the...
  15. jeffweeder

    Connecting the dots = a pre-tribulation rapture.

    Saved Israelites would give a different answer today.
  16. jeffweeder

    Connecting the dots = a pre-tribulation rapture.

    Noah's day is about escaping the day of Gods wrath (righteous judgment). You agree? God provided a means of salvation that required one's faith. If Noah would have ignored Gods exact specifications for the Ark, what would have happened to his household? Thankfully Noah paid attention to the...
  17. jeffweeder

    Connecting the dots = a pre-tribulation rapture.

    Lol. Does your rapture include a resurrection and glorification of your body??
  18. jeffweeder

    Connecting the dots = a pre-tribulation rapture.

    That's a stretch. Noah was aware of what God was going to do = end all life. He then spends 70 to 100 years building an ark to save his household lol. Looks like he knew he was going to be present when the sudden destruction came and only his faith in Gods salvation was going to save him. So...
  19. jeffweeder

    Connecting the dots = a pre-tribulation rapture.

    Our resurrection and change takes place on the last day, not before John 6:40 For this is My Father’s will and purpose, that everyone who sees the Son and believes in Him [as Savior] will have eternal life, and I will raise him up [from the dead] on the last day.” John 11:24 Martha replied, “I...
  20. jeffweeder

    It is time to give Pretrib a decent burial

    Fighting with what? Jesus has already won the battle, and even now we are more than conquerors Jesus rode a donkey into Jerusalem to give his life for us, all humble and sacrificing. He shall return on a white horse to glorify us and dress us with a body like his glorious body, all victorious...