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I see what it says and what you are saying, but the words used do not support either position as they very in definition. In fact, the passage could just as easily be interpreted as "Satan took Jesus up into the air, high and beyond measure and showed Him all the kingdoms of the earth." Which...

It is because you have referred to the flesh as if you believe it is to be glorified or immortalized (not that you said it that way--but rather that you seem to support that commonly believed doctrine).

Indeed the old man of flesh is flesh and has one nature, while the new man of the spirit of God has no flesh as God has no flesh and His nature is spirit: Those who are of God are not flesh, but spirit. So then, I might ask you: Why are you concerned about retaining the flesh at all, only to...

You who believe Israel is of this world, now believe that scripture is literary and not spiritual. Go figure--such are the workings of Satan!

Those passages all speak to the reality of the timelessness of us born again (that new creation), but not to the flesh and the worldly reality that the flesh does indeed return to the dust and is dissolved. Which is how one walking in the Spirit ought to begin to start thinking...but not to make...

This is the mystery and the gift or God of those born again of the Spirit of God--as Paul identified us as "we who arealiveandremain" (in the flesh and in theworld). That we should suffer as Christ suffered, to be One with Christ, and Christ, and reign with Him, even as a part of His own body...

Even the born again are in the flesh that will only return to the dust at its passing. Paul referred to this a "we who are alive and remain" (in the flesh and in the world). Hence, the struggle he also wrote about. Meaning, the born again have a choice of walking in the spirit or in the...

There are indeed two different bodies. But no version of the flesh inherites the Kingdom of God. The flesh is still made up of the elements of this world which returns to the dust and is dissolved. These bodies are merely the "skins" God gave us back in Genesis. The bodies Adam are Eve had...

@Wrangler @Lizbeth Looks like you came to a greater juncture (back on page 2), I'll read on but now it looks as though Jack is having his usual go at things. Anyway, there is something right about what you have both said. But both are based on Jesus setting before the church "life and death...

The 1 John 3 issue of no sin is likened to "though he die, he shall surely live." The message regarding sin, is, "It is finished", although "we who are alive and remain" in the flesh and in this world, still struggle with sin just as Christ still struggles with sin in His body (the church)...

In the scriptures--and more importantly, in history, in life--God makes Himself known. In word pictures, parables of words as well as real life examples and experiences that also paint a vivid image of Him, of us and how we fit in, in visions and dreams, speaking audibly, in a quiet inner voice...

Eve too was created, taken out of the man (Adam), and then Eve bore children. tsml But it's all an image or parable of our departure from God due to sin, and then our means of returning to God in Christ, in marriage.

Great! It's all the same truth told, or rather revealed, in the fulness of time. So yes, certainly, that is how what was since the beginning came/comes to fruition in Christ.

I know the scriptures, but not sure just what you mean. The male and female were one (as God is One) and the woman (mankind) was taken out of the man (of God), one image of God as in marriage, but separated for a time (times, and half a time).

-The woman is representational of all of mankind. -Adam is a created representative of God, "in His image" (whom the woman/all mankind came out of). Therefore, Christ is the Son of "Man." -Bringing forth children, spiritually refers to those born again of the spirit of God -The flesh returns to...

Hi Gott' Did you get all the answers you needed?