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He didn't remove them from it, but carried and protected them through it. And in this way, Noah's Ark, CrowCross ~ the boat itself ~ is a shadow, a type of Jesus, our Savior Who carries ~ is carrying ~ us through the flood. They did, but Noah found favor in the eyes of the Lord and so did not...

You're not wrong about that, CrowCross. I might call it something like head-in-the-clouds arrogance... kind of a double-whammy... At any rate very uncalled for... unbecoming, and certainly not Christ-like. Grace and peace to you.

In the sense that God's plan for the fullness of time was in place then, yes. And that God is eternally present. "I tell you..." <chuckles> The Bible is true, yes. Agreed. <smile> Which is the age to come. <smile> <sigh> Ah, well, most everyone here would say that, Scott. God's Word is...

There will be no judgment in heaven. When the final judgement is executed ~ by Christ Jesus, of course ~ heaven will be "brought down to us," as John "saw," and we "see" in Revelation 21:1-8. And, as the old hymn goes, heaven and earth will be one. <chuckles> Um, yes. <smile> It was what...

Hmmmm. There is no... trip... <smile> Except maybe to where the final judgment takes place, which, like you say is certainly not "beyond the stars"... it will be somewhere on this planet. Jerusalem? The Mount of Olives? Maybe. I think not, though; it sure would be a whole bunch of people...

Goodness gracious. Come quickly, Lord Jesus. Wow. Grace and peace to all.

It is. And, regarding the "rapture" itself, foisted upon the text without warrant. In order: John 14:2-3 "In my Father’s house are many rooms. If it were not so, would I have told you that I go to prepare a place for you? And if I go and prepare a place for you, I will come again and will...

"The winepress thingy." I gotta remember that one... <chuckles> What is the function of a winepress, Rebuilder? A winepress is a device used to extract juice from crushed grapes during winemaking, right? This is an image of the final judgment. The Lord will remove us... in a certain...

You are certainly welcome to your opinion, no one is depriving you of that, CC. <chuckles> Actually it does, if only in the sense that, as the angel says in Acts 1, He will return exactly the way he left. So, other than that He will come down out of the sky -- which will be an extraordinary...

Repost: There is only one second coming. It is a terrible misreading of Revelation to think everything mentioned is strictly chronologically sequential. What John is given is not just one vision but seven concurrent visions ~ each one spanning the same time period. Jesus's return and the...

It was the... state of things... how unbelievers were living... then, now, and up to the end of this current age. Jesus will bring all that to an end when He returns. Goodness gracious. Grace and peace.

Right back atcha. "social economic conditions"... <chuckles> Revelation 8:1 ends John's first (of seven) visions, and Revelation 8:2 begins the second. As I said above to Rebuilder, it is a terrible misreading of Revelation to think everything mentioned is strictly chronologically...

There is only one second coming. It is a terrible misreading of Revelation to think everything mentioned is strictly chronologically sequential. What John is given is not just one vision but seven concurrent visions ~ each one spanning the same time period. Jesus's return and the second...

If by saying Jesus mentioned "social economical conditions" you are referring to Him saying that many will be "eating and drinking" and such, those are the "conditions" now, during the tribulation period, and at the end of the current tribulation period. They are going about their business with...

<eye roll> Where are you talking about, CrowCross? Grace and peace.

Because you brought it ("social economic times") up, and it has no relevance. Again, nothing to do with "social economic times." You should quite at these "gotcha" grabs, because you're reeeeeeeally bad at it. <smile> Grace and peace.

No one was "removed" from creation. They were spared of the judgment God placed upon the world in Noah's day and Sodom and Gomorrah in Lot's. And so it will be in the final judgment: clothed in His righteousness, we will stand in the judgment and will not be subject to the second death. No...

"Long ago, at many times and in many ways, God spoke to our fathers by the prophets, 2 but in these last days he has spoken to us by his Son, whom he appointed the heir of all things, through whom also he created the world" (Hebrews 1:1-2) This is but one; Jesus appears ~ as a type/shadow ~...

Always did... Maybe you are, now... Nothing to do with "social economic times"... But they had no idea sudden judgment was about to come upon them... It will be sudden and unexpected, yes. Well, no, I explained it at the time the flood came in Noah's day... it's suddenness and...

Maybe this will clear some things up for... some folks... Noah's flood does not represent the tribulation, it represents... is, actually... God's judgment exacted on the wicked. As such, it is a picture of the final judgment that will be rendered after the time of tribulation, and after...