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I’m not sure what you mean by this statement. I would say a place can’t be both holy and unholy at the same time. Which to me means the AOD stands in an unholy place that was once holy. If someone were to say the dirt is standing in the clean room, we would know the room is not clean. If that...

If the stones represent people in covenant with God, and according to Hebrews 13:20 His blood is an everlasting covenant, then how does “not one stone on another” take place? Is it referring only to the old covenant and not the new covenant?

Are you insinuating that you can somehow tell if something gets fulfilled without any extra Biblical information?

Well, I quoted what he said, or at least the English translation of what he said. I said “I think” because I’m simply being honest, I haven’t read all of Eusebius’ writings nor have I studied the early church fathers. What do you want? Do you want someone to claim they know exactly what...

I don’t think Eusebius is saying that they knew the exact time to flee by observing events, I think he’s saying when they (approved men) received (vouchsafed) the revelation to flee, they did it. They didn’t go back to get their clothes or things, they got out of Jerusalem and went to Pella...

Eusebius of Caesarea (c. 260-c. 340), the first to write a comprehensive history of the early church and acclaimed Father of Church History said this … Church History 3,5,3. But the people of the church in Jerusalem had been commanded by a revelation, vouchsafed to approved men there before...

I’ve been following this thread and you quoted Eusebius which got me thinking. Matthew 24:40 Then shall two be in the field; the one shall be taken, and the other left. The words “shall be taken”<3880> occurs 50 times and can have several different meanings. One meaning is to receive...

Ok, I think we are in agreement that people who currently believe, both Jew and Gentile, their Sun never goes down. Your statement about after the remnant are saved applies to everyone who becomes a believer right now and in the future, not just the future. It’s a current reality, the new...

Tapp is the only one who might possibly suggest that the sun represents joy, no scriptural references are given for that and it would differ from the other commentaries that suggest the sun is Messiah or Jehovah’s light. Really, I think Tapp is just saying that when the sun doesn’t go down there...

I agree somewhat with the commentaries but there are some glaring issues that stick out like a sore thumb. Tapp equates joy with the sun and concludes that when the sun no longer goes down we will have habitual cheerfulness. An explanation of why we currently have joy when the sun is up and...

Ok, let’s substitute the word Israel for sun and moon in Isaiah 60:20, keeping in mind that it’s direct intended audience is Israel. Isaiah 60:20(KJV) Thy sun shall no more go down; neither shall thy moon withdraw itself: for the LORD shall be thine everlasting light, and the days of thy...

Ok, is this what you’re arguing? “Thy sun shall no more go down; neither shall thy moon withdraw itself”, are you says this means that whatever the sun an moon represent in new Jerusalem, that figurative sun and moon are currently going down and withdrawing themselves but they won’t do that...

No, that verse is not meant to be read as something that could never happen, obviously it happens when new heaven new earth are realized. Where else does the Bible describe something being impossible then go on to describe that thing as happening (literal or not) but we interpret the scriptures...

Yes, we all should be able to come to the conclusion that these verses are not to be taken literally. So for starters the seed in Jeremiah 31:36 should be looked at in conjunction with Galatians 3:16 where seed, singular, is Christ. Since Jesus paid for our sins, which is eternal separation from...

Isaiah 60:20 Thy sun shall no more go down; neither shall thy moon withdraw itself: for the LORD shall be thine everlasting light, and the days of thy mourning shall be ended. That is not obeying Genesis 1:14, to divide the day from the night. The sun has not disobey the Genesis 1:14...

Right, things will be different in NHNE, the sun and moon will not be obeying the ordinances in Genesis 1:14. Jeremiah 31:36 says if those ordinances depart from before me, saith the LORD, then the seed of Israel also shall cease from being a nation before me for ever. Do you think the...

Are you suggesting that in Genesis 1:14, this “And God said, Let there be lights in the firmament of the heaven” is an ordinance but this “to divide the day from the night and let them be for signs, and for seasons, and for days, and years” is not an ordinance? Ordinance <2706> choq Statute...

What about the promises made in Jeremiah 31:35-36? Jeremiah 31:35 Thus saith the LORD, which giveth the sun for a light by day, and the ordinances of the moon and of the stars for a light by night, which divideth the sea when the waves thereof roar; The LORD of hosts is his name: 36 If those...

The only promises made to Israel isn’t just the dirt, is it? What about being ruled with a rod of iron, Israel isn’t going to be ruled with the rod of iron, it’s the Gentile nations. Wouldn’t it be beneficial to escape the rod of iron by converting to be a Jew right now?

Would you encourage believers to become Israel believers so they can receive the promises made to Israel? Are you planning on becoming a Jew yourself so you can get the icing on the cake of salvation?