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    MOTB by itself does not always = LOF ??

    Both the time (a thousand years) of binding of Satan and those who have lived and reigned with Christ (a thousand years) pertains to the same period of time given this earth whereby man must be saved to inherit everlasting life through Christ. How can this not be speaking of the same period of...
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    MOTB by itself does not always = LOF ??

    The time of the end or end times, these last days began with the first advent of Christ. It is the time symbolized a thousand years that shall not be finished until the last/seventh trumpet begins to sound.
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    MOTB by itself does not always = LOF ??

    Daniel is NOT writing of the resurrection of the dead that is coming when ALL (both good and bad) shall be bodily resurrected either to life or condemnation. These words from Daniel are pointing to what shall come to pass during this time likened here to "a time of trouble" and "great...
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    MOTB by itself does not always = LOF ??

    Yes, it is! However, in this particular passage of Scripture Paul speaks only of the "dead in Christ"! Explaining that in the same hour that is coming they (dead in Christ) shall be resurrected before the "rest of the dead", those resurrected to damnation shall be resurrected. John 5:28-29...
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    MOTB by itself does not always = LOF ??

    I agree that two resurrections are mentioned in Scripture. The first resurrection of Rev 20 speaks of the resurrection of Christ we must have part in to overcome the second death (damnation). Rev 20 also speaks of the resurrection of the dead. That is of ALL without exception who have...
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    MOTB by itself does not always = LOF ??

    When does/did the time of the end begin for this earth?
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    MOTB by itself does not always = LOF ??

    The point is that just as the sealing of the Holy Spirit in us is not physically seen, neither is the mark of the beast something that can be physically seen. Why? Because these things do not pertain to physical things that man must have to sustain physical/mortal life in this world. Both the...
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    MOTB by itself does not always = LOF ??

    Yes, Christ was seen ascending bodily up to heaven, which is the same manner in which He shall return again when the last/seventh trumpet sounds. But the Kingdom Christ received when He ascended up into heaven is NOT the physical Kingdom that shall come to the new earth when Christ comes again...
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    MOTB by itself does not always = LOF ??

    Exactly, I agree! Being faithful unto death, after His resurrection He ascended to heaven where He received a Kingdom that shall never end nor be destroyed. The Kingdom He was given when He ascended to heaven is not physical but the spiritual Kingdom of God that every man who has been, is and...
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    MOTB by itself does not always = LOF ??

    Acts 1:9-11 (KJV) And when he had spoken these things, while they beheld, he was taken up; and a cloud received him out of their sight. And while they looked stedfastly toward heaven as he went up, behold, two men stood by them in white apparel; Which also said, Ye men of Galilee, why stand ye...
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    MOTB by itself does not always = LOF ??

    Being born again means we have been eternally saved. And because we have been eternally saved (spiritually) we have no fear of the second death when Christ comes again, but shall be changed from mortal, physical body to immortal/incorruptible physical body made alive through our eternal spirit...
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    MOTB by itself does not always = LOF ??

    You're ignoring what else Rob said, "The second coming was when Christ came in all power and glory to rule and reign with a rod of iron, meaning Daniels iron kingdom, the spiritual kingdom Jesus is using on the world right now." He equates the "second coming" spoken by Daniel as the spiritual...
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    MOTB by itself does not always = LOF ??

    Many people in these forums label themselves partial preterits! I've not heard Rob call himself full Preterit, and in fact he has plainly said he is not.
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    MOTB by itself does not always = LOF ??

    I don't believe his post promoted Preterism.
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    MOTB by itself does not always = LOF ??

    This may be true, but all who have been born again have spiritually entered into the heavenly Jerusalem "the spirits of just men made perfect." We have eternal spiritual life through the Spirit of Christ in us when we have been born again. Though our spirits have been perfected (spiritually)...
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    MOTB by itself does not always = LOF ??

    You know I fight against Preterism, therefore I am not Preterit in doctrine. I agreed with IndianRobs post because he makes a distinction between spiritual and physical fulfillment. While I agree Christ has not yet come the second time, Scripture shows me that when Christ came to earth a man...
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    MOTB by itself does not always = LOF ??

    Yes, the heavenly Jerusalem is symbolically represented as the church on this earth. When unbelievers are allowed to be in union or members among the body of Christ, spiritually speaking, the heavenly Jerusalem, they have and are spiritually treading down the holy city as they bring false...
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    LYING

    The Mosaic Law and the Prophets.
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    LYING

    Proverbs 6:16-19 (KJV) These six things doth the LORD hate: yea, seven are an abomination unto him: A proud look, a lying tongue, and hands that shed innocent blood, An heart that deviseth wicked imaginations, feet that be swift in running to mischief, A false witness that speaketh lies, and he...
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    MOTB by itself does not always = LOF ??

    In a spiritual sense unbelievers have tread down the holy temple (spiritual Jerusalem) from the beginning of the church that Christ spiritually established. That's why there are so many warnings throughout the New Testament for believers to watch over and guard the church. The time given...