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It's by immersion in the water that enables contact with the Spirit, so, no baptism into Christ, no contact with the Spirit whuch means no cleansing of sin, no contact with the cleansing power of Christ's blood.

The thief was forgiven by Christ as he forgave others while alive, under the OT! Baptism wasn't a requirement of salvation until Christ died, at which poitgd NT began. Read Hebrews 9:16-17 16For where a testament is, there must also of necessity be the death of the testator. 17For a testament...

John's baptism was not into Christ which is why the Ephesians were re-baptized in Acts 19 And Jesus was alive when he forgave the thief on the cross meaning the NT was not yet in effect, so, the thief was forgiven as were others during Jesus' earthly ministry. Read Hebrews 9:16-17. NT began...

You're not saved until baptized into Christ when sins are remitted. Scripture no where says what you stated. Your statement is untrue

Scripture does not say that anywhere.

Yes. After belief and faith, those who believed were then obedient to the gospel and were baptized into Christ, becoming not just believers, but Christians and children of God, and members of the body of Christ which is his church.

Exactly. We're baptized into Christ; no other way. So, by one's belief which us followed by faith, we then are obedient to the gospel, and repent and are baptized into the body of Christ and become Christians, children of God, and members of the body of Christ which is his church.

Fyi regarding entry into the church Acts 2:47 47Praising God, and having favour with all the people. And the Lord added to the church daily such as should be saved Read the entire text from 2:38. You clearly see the process. The Jews believed and were told to repent and be baptized

When we are "in Christ" you said. How do we get to be "in Christ"? What scripture(s) tell you how one gets "in Christ"?

I'm not doing anything of the kind; I'm considering ALL scripture on the subject, and when you do baptism is an absolute necessity of salvation as is belief and faith, repentance, confession of belief, AND immersion in water (baptism). All of the aforementioned.

That's what you say but that's not specifically what this scripture says. My statement still remains. If you're in sin you can't be saved until the sin is removed, so, what scripture tells you how/when and at what point your sins are removed? It's not the one you posted.

So, what is your point by posting this scripture? Are you insinuating we need to do nothing at all?

Goodbye. You've clearly demonstrated you don't know what you're talking about.

Yes it does so what is it you don't understand when you read Jesus own words as recorded in Mark 16:15-16? Those words of the Lord are very clear are they not? Mk16:15-16 15And he said unto them, Go ye into all the world, and preach the gospel to every creature. 16He that believeth and is...

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No I can't cuz i have no idea what you are trying to say. If you're saying that there is more than one method of salvation, one fir one group and another method for a different group, and trying to justify that false doctrine by pitting scripture against scripture, you're very wrong. There is...

Christ through Christ said Mk16:15-16 15And he said unto them, Go ye into all the world, and preach the gospel to every creature. 16He that believeth and is baptized shall be saved; but he that believeth not shall be damned.

You can't pit scripture against scripture. If you take one only it will for sure appear to contradict another.

John's baptism was the baptism of repentance for the forgiveness of sins. Acts 2:38, similarly tied remission of sins to baptism as does Acts 22:16 and 1 Peter 3:21; so, it's not "really hard" to separate baptism from salvation, it's impossible! But, it's not baptism alone, it's a process also...

It's impossible to be saved while you're still in sin, and you're not saved until baptized into the body of Christ as the scriptures CLEARLY teach repeatedly. I'll say no more and let the scriptures speak themselves. Goodbye