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    Why the great chain?

    The problem with that is that Satan’s binding isn’t eternal while the covenant is eternal. If something occurred because Satan was bound then that thing isn’t eternal. If something occurred because of the new covenant then that thing is eternal. I’m getting that from your claim that the fear of...
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    Why the great chain?

    The problem isn’t in initially thinking that all the things accomplished at the cross bound Satan, the problem is that Satan is loosed at some point and no longer bound. Hebrews 13:20 Now the God of peace, that brought again from the dead our Lord Jesus, that great shepherd of the sheep...
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    Why the great chain?

    But that’s always been the case, those who don’t have hope of eternal life through Jesus Christ fear death, regardless of Satan being bound or not. Hebrews 2:14-15 is talking about the difference between the covenants, not about Satan being bound or not.
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    Why the great chain?

    Will people who currently have no fear of death once again fear death like the OT times when Satan is loosed?
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    Why the great chain?

    I would say Satan was bound and at the same time he did walk around like a roaring lion in Babylon, which was his cage after being bound. Revelation 18:2 And he cried mightily with a strong voice, saying, Babylon the great is fallen, is fallen, and is become the habitation of devils, and the...
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    Why the great chain?

    Satan was bound (had no power or authority) when Jesus was given all power/authority in heaven and earth, Matthew 28:18. As far as a prophecy that Satan was bound from fulfilling, I would say it was the prophecy of “the people of the prince that shall come shall destroy the city and the...
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    Why the great chain?

    Satan had the power of death prior to the cross, once Christ died and paid for sin, Satan could no longer accuse the brethren, all based on the covenants. It has to do with Satan being bound from fulfilling what was prophesied that he could fulfill. This was delayed, if you will, for the...
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    Why the great chain?

    So is the binding of Satan tied directly to the new covenant? It means that the Gentiles weren’t under the old covenant, it was for Jews, that’s how it was structured. The old covenant was a bilateral covenant, the Jews had certain physical requirements and God had certain requirements. The...
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    Why the great chain?

    In the Old Testament times only a remnant of Jews were saved. Was that also due to Satan being loosed at that time? Or should we attribute that to the old covenant and its structure.
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    Why the great chain?

    Well I can’t speak for anyone else but I would say the power of death taken away from Satan had to do with the new covenant itself and Christ’s death, not necessarily whether Satan was bound or not.
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    Why the great chain?

    Sure, even atheists today fear physical death. Do you think Hebrews 2:14-15 has anything to do with Satan being loosed or bound?
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    Why the great chain?

    What difference does it make? Amill folks shouldn’t be trying to make the verse seem like it’s referring to Gentiles being in fear of the second death prior to the cross. It isn’t referring to the binding of Satan, it’s referring to the difference between the old covenant and new covenant.
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    Why the great chain?

    What kind of death is Hebrews 2:14-15 talking about? If the Gentiles during the Old Testament times didn’t even know about the Old Testament because Satan was deceiving them then they wouldn’t have even been aware of the second death, so the “fear of death” in Hebrews 2:15 would have to be...
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    Why the great chain?

    I think we all would agree that some people were being saved prior to the old covenant and nation of Israel, and Satan wasn’t bound at that time. This in itself should be proof enough that an unbound Satan can’t prevent people from becoming saved. After the old covenant is created and Israel...
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    Why the great chain?

    Ok, I agree with you that Gentiles were saved prior to the cross. So what is your view of Satan being bound? Was Satan bound so a large number of Gentiles could be saved vs a small number of Gentiles?
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    Why the great chain?

    Well, as far as a Gentile being “saved” prior to the cross, I’m referring to the final destination of that individual after physical death. We know of Nineveh as an entire group of Gentiles that received the Word but there are some people who will argue that no one was actually “saved” in...
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    Why the great chain?

    Prior to the cross, could a Gentile, who remained outside of the nation of Israel, have faith and be saved? If the answer is yes, then there is one true “spiritual Israel” people of God, through out time, but it doesn’t matter whether Satan is bound or not, Gentiles get saved. If the answer is...
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    Why the great chain?

    When a person stands at the great white throne judgement and their sins have already been forgiven, they don’t have to pay for those sins a second time. If that were the case then we would be in doubt about our future after our physical death, we would have no assurance. Those who died before...
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    Why the great chain?

    Ok, I’m not arguing against it but your view is that the bottomless pit is a condition and that there are currently people in the bottomless pit (in that condition)?
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    Why the great chain?

    But wouldn’t that analogy mean that people who are deceived (bit) by Satan are in the bottomless pit (10’ area)?