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When the 7th trumpet sounds, the kingdoms of this world are become the kingdoms of our Lord. That means Armageddon is over. After that Christ sets His feet on the Mount of Olives...the second advent. Those 7 trumpets and 7 vials are the wrath of God. The Church is not appointed to wrath and yet...

No. 1 Thes 4 is talking about the rapture of the Church. The rapture of the Church happens before the seals are opened, before the great tribulation. The Lord Himself comes for His bride. After the great tribulation God turns His attention to Israel. That is why there are 144,000 first fruits...

The future return of Jesus, the second coming, occurs at the 6th seal. Believers are not appointed to wrath. Jesus comes first for the Church, in an hour that we think not. That is why we are told to watch. The Church will be raptured before the great tribulation as the great tribulation is...

Exactly. Rev 4 and 5 are a future view of what happens when Jesus returns for the Church, His bride, BEFORE the great tribulation. The great tribulation begins the time of Jacobs trouble which are for the Jews. There are 3.5 years remaining in the 70th week of Daniel and that clock starts when...

I think you have missed the part where He came for the Church before the great tribulation. See Revelation 3,4,5. I think you missed the part where Jesus sends His angels to gather the elect from heaven and earth. After Jesus comes at the 6th seal, which is the second coming, ALL RETURN TO...

The ark door will be shut to them.

Yes it is. No man can buy or sell worldwide without the mark of the beast. The great tribulation will affect the whole world. This is where you are making a big error in understanding. Pre wrath is not pre great tribulation. The wrath of God is the 7th seal, 7 trumpets / 7 vials. The wrath...

I try to save this one for when they insist that the trump of God is not the voice of God. However, it can be clear in the scripture, and they won't believe it because it goes against learned doctrine.

It seems you unable to understand the difference between the Lord Himself coming and the Lord sending His angels. Two different events. You seem unable to understand the difference between the trump of God, which is the voice of God and the last trump which is blown on the Feast of Trumpets...

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The second coming occurs at the 6th seal. All eyes see the coming of the Lord. There is a harvest, seen here. Rev 14 14 And I looked, and behold a white cloud, and upon the cloud one sat like unto the Son of man, having on his head a golden crown, and in his hand a sharp sickle. 15 And another...

Wow. Exactly my point. The trump of God is the voice of God. We find the trump of God in 1 Thes 4 which is about the rapture of the Church. The trump of God has absolutely nothing whatsoever to do with the last trump. The last trump is blown on the feast of trumpets and is found in 1...

Bingo. He has nothing but claims of avoidance. He is continually answered. He can't refute. Then he claims avoidance. In the end believers are instructed to avoid those that cause divisions. I asked him many times to give me one question, his best question and I will answer it. When it's...

You can also type in AVOIDANCE and member name WPM and you get another 10 pages of avoidance claims. They only keep 10 pages on each search term so no telling how many claims he has made. This is all he has as he is scripturally illiterate. I suspect about half his posts are claims that...

In the search bar above type in the word AVOIDING and under member type WPM and have a good laugh. It's his MO. He has reduced himself to the bottom of the barrel, claiming avoidance as his only weapon, despite the facts. LOL. It's all he's got and as you know it is false.

LOL. This is nothing new. You could answer him 1000 times and he would claim avoidance. He knows he has nothing but hopes that someone might fall for this nonsense. Basically, he is Biblically illiterate and can only claim that you have avoided him. He is not a troll. He does his best to...

You will know them by their fruit.

This is a rapture in the book of Revelation. Revelation 14 14 And I looked, and behold a white cloud, and upon the cloud one sat like unto the Son of man, having on his head a golden crown, and in his hand a sharp sickle. 15 And another angel came out of the temple, crying with a loud voice to...

The kingdoms of this world are become the kingdoms of our Lord. No matter how you cut it, Armageddon is OVER. There are no vials to be poured out. It's done. It is the time of judgement. Ok. You can pretend there are no trumpets and vials of God's wrath in the 7th seal if you want. How can...

I know He comes immediately after the great tribulation at the 6th seal. I also know He comes more the once. You seem to deny this truth.......... Matthew 24 42 Watch therefore: for ye know not what hour your Lord doth come. 43 But know this, that if the goodman of the house had known in what...