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    Who goes back with Jesus in the pre-tribulation rapture?

    What? I have heard it all now! He was there deceiving Adam and Eve before the Fall. Hello! He had obviously already fallen. That is nowhere talking about the invisible angelic world. It is talking about the physical visible creation.
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    Who goes back with Jesus in the pre-tribulation rapture?

    Revelation tells us 5 times that Satan and the beast have "seven heads." That make them seven literal heads? LOL.
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    Who goes back with Jesus in the pre-tribulation rapture?

    Gotcha! Zero consistency with Dispensatanism. It is all over the house: "a thousand years" must be literal but "one hour" is figurative. Yea right! Pretrib makes it up as it goes. Whatever works.
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    Rapture Thoughts of Some Early Church Leaders

    This is total ignorance.
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    Rapture Thoughts of Some Early Church Leaders

    You are a master at avoidance. The New Testament Scripture makes abundantly clear that Christ was the final sacrifice for sin (Romans 6:10, Hebrews 7:27, 9:12, 28, 10:10, 12, 14 and 1 Peter 3:18) and that there are no more offerings for sin (Hebrews 9:26, 10:18, 26 and 1 John 3:5). The reality...
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    Who goes back with Jesus in the pre-tribulation rapture?

    You are not a literalist. You cherry pick like all Premils. Re the “one hour” that the beast reigns with the “ten kings” in Revelation 17:12, is that sixty minutes?
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    Who goes back with Jesus in the pre-tribulation rapture?

    I have. You present no corroboration for your opinion of Revelation. Where is it? That is because Pretribs have nothing but avoidance and ad hominem.
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    Who goes back with Jesus in the pre-tribulation rapture?

    Isaiah 14 12-17 states, “How art thou fallen from heaven, O Lucifer (helel or shining one), son of the morning (dawn)! how art thou cut down to the ground, which didst weaken the nations! For thou hast said in thine heart, I will ascend into heaven, I will exalt my throne above the stars of God...
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    Rapture Thoughts of Some Early Church Leaders

    Lol. What you just wrote does not support pre-trib in any way. This is not a rebuttal. It is an avoidance. This is reinforcing the fact that your doctrine is unbiblical.
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    Rapture Thoughts of Some Early Church Leaders

    Maybe you would quote these passages and highlight where the evidence is instead of doing a Jack Van Imp - presenting Bible references that have absolutely nothing to do with what he is claiming.
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    Rapture Thoughts of Some Early Church Leaders

    The word ecclesia is found throughout the Greek Old Testament. It was from that book that Jesus and the apostles preached.
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    Rapture Thoughts of Some Early Church Leaders

    God's covenants are made independent of man's response. You do not get that. This demolishes your whole thesis.
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    Who goes back with Jesus in the pre-tribulation rapture?

    Where is your corroboration for your opinion of Revelation?
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    Rapture Thoughts of Some Early Church Leaders

    The New Testament Scripture makes abundantly clear that Christ was the final sacrifice for sin (Romans 6:10, Hebrews 7:27, 9:12, 28, 10:10, 12, 14 and 1 Peter 3:18) and that there are no more offerings for sin (Hebrews 9:26, 10:18, 26 and 1 John 3:5). The reality is, one can search the New...
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    Rapture Thoughts of Some Early Church Leaders

    Colossians 2:14 plainly and unambiguously declares, that Christ's atonement resulted in the “Blotting out the handwriting of ordinances that was against us, which was contrary to us, and took it out of the way, nailing it to his cross.” The Greek word for “Blotting out” here is exaleiphō...
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    WATCH!

    How many people survived in Sodom (the sole city that Christ likened the destruction of this world to at the end)? How many wicked people survived in Noah's day?
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    WATCH!

    LOL. You are the expert at not addressing. That is your response to every rebuttal. The parable of the 10 virgins has nothing to do with 50% being saved and 50% not within the Church. It has nothing to do with 50% or professors being genuine and 50% not. It has equally nothing to do with the...
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    Rapture Thoughts of Some Early Church Leaders

    You invent a definition of covenant and then force your teaching into it. Did God get Adam's agreement in the Garden? No. Did the covenant of the rainbow involve man agreeing to it. No. Why was Abraham put to sleep when the sacrifice was made? Hello! Man enjoys the benefits of the covenant...
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    Rapture Thoughts of Some Early Church Leaders

    The unitary 70 weeks are clearly split into 3 (integral) parts. 7 = 49 yrs 62 = 434 yrs 1 = 7 yrs Total = 490 (harmonious unitary) years Whilst, the last week is still not fully described we will look at the overall outline at this juncture for a blueprint. (1) The first part (7 weeks)...
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    Rapture Thoughts of Some Early Church Leaders

    If Pretrib was in Daniel 9 you would have presented it before now. The fact is: it is not! The burden of proof is with you! You presented Daniel 9 as a proof text, when it is in fact nothing of the sort. It is not there, or in any of the texts that you referenced. That is why you cannot answer...