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    What is the purpose of Grace?

    So you don't agree with Episkopos regarding imputed righteousness? I wonder you have never refuted him on that......it is very important foundational doctrine.
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    What is the purpose of Grace?

    Uh huh. Funny you have never told Epi that with regard to how he talks to people routinely.
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    What is the purpose of Grace?

    It's the difference between religious flesh which was of the Law and the new way of the spirit........John, like the other NT writers, was writing in spirit. Nobody is saying it is ok to sin, but that the desire to walk holy needs to come from willing hearts, not under compulsion. Religious...
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    What is the purpose of Grace?

    There is a real danger of disconnecting the power from He who is the source of it, in a way that robs Him of His glory and causes men to be lifted up in pride.
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    What is the purpose of Grace?

    Where is the rest of my post? The Romans 4 scriptures. I'm not overthinking them at all.....just accepting them for what they actually and clearly do say. But please feel free to discuss them and tell us what context you are speaking of.
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    What is the purpose of Grace?

    I was referring especially to your comment with regard to marvelloustime. How do you read Romans 4? Imputed righteousness being due to God's grace.
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    What is the purpose of Grace?

    As long as nobody is separating "the power" from the God and Christ whose power it is. What does anyone have that they didn't receive....from HIM? For HIS glory, true? And imputed righteousness is because of His grace too (that is what Romans 4 explicitly teaches), as well as power. And...
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    What is the purpose of Grace?

    The carnal mind loves to overthink things and look through a microscope which can't see the thing as a whole....that is VANITY. In both senses of the word. Rom 4:1-10 What shall we say then that Abraham our father, as pertaining to the flesh, hath found? For if Abraham were justified by...
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    What is the purpose of Grace?

    You dont understand grace. "Blessed is the man to whom God will not impute sin." Even though the man has sinned. Is God blind and not able to observe that the man sinned? Even so He is not imputing it to him...........in other words He is forgiving the man's sins and imputing righteousness...
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    What is the purpose of Grace?

    What makes you assume this brother is not "doing"? It's quite bizarre how you are always making judgments about people whose lives you know absolutely nothing about, just because they take issue with you.
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    What is the purpose of Grace?

    Jesus is the Rock. His flesh was broken/cleft for us.........that we might find refuge IN Him through faith and be hid from the wrath of God. It is also because He was cleft that water gushes from the Rock to give refreshment to His people....His Spirit poured out.
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    What is the purpose of Grace?

    Power comes to us through His grace, but grace is not just power........it is God's overall disposition of favour to the believer based on our faith in and acceptance of His Son. We have found favour with God, through faith. So He is disposed to be gracious to us, which comes from the root...
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    What is the purpose of Grace?

    Jesus has paid the price for everything, and in Him and through Him it is all being imputed to the believing child of God meanwhile.........as we also pay a price to follow Him and seek to apprehend those things. Why aren't you in the kingdom realm? Do you ever examine yourself? And since you...
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    What is the purpose of Grace?

    That's fine. Just will leave you with this little thought.....the unbelieving Pharisees no more had the kingdom of God in their midst/among them than they had the King of it in them individually, since they were rejecting Jesus, the King of the kingdom. In another way I believe He was alluding...
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    What is the purpose of Grace?

    You ought to know what I "claim" about myself from our earliest conversation at the very least, but you are unable to resolve what you see as a contradiction....you are blind to it. We certainly are to seek to APPREHEND (get hold of) that which HAS ALREADY BEEN LAID UP IN HEAVEN (spiritual...
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    What is the purpose of Grace?

    Yes...as in He will grant some to be hid in the Cleft of the Rock. The Rock that was cleft/split that we may find refuge/hide in His side, His flesh torn, the veil torn in twain. There is no salvation/rescue in any other way.
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    What is the purpose of Grace?

    Yes, I regard it to be both meanings at the same time. Jesus was making the point that His kingdom and Kingship was not carnal/earthly like Israel was wrongly expecting, but spiritual........within the believer as well as in the midst of His church. He was correcting their wrong understanding...
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    What is the purpose of Grace?

    Christ in us is a landmine...?? Yikes, I suppose only if anyone uses these wonderful gracious truths as a license/cloak for sin. Everything tests us. Luk 17:20-21 And when he was demanded of the Pharisees, when the kingdom of God should come, he answered them and said, The kingdom of God...
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    What is the purpose of Grace?

    Of course we need humility. Why on earth would you assume that all who don't agree with everything you say have no humility?
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    What is the purpose of Grace?

    Uh no....Jesus Himself SAID the kingdom is within us. And yet it is through much tribulation that we are entering. It is yes, but not necessarily yet. Like where its says the promises are "Yes" in Him, and in Him "Amen." But the natural man can't grasp these things of course.