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  1. PinSeeker

    Is it possible to lose salvation?

    God's foreknowing, as it is used in the Bible ~ by Paul in Romans 8:29 in particular ~ is not just a cognitive foreseeing or a "looking forward into the future and seeing who will choose Him." In that case, one's salvation would not really depend on God but upon Himself, which is directly...
  2. PinSeeker

    Revelation 20: 5&6

    Grace and peace to you, Fred.
  3. PinSeeker

    Is it possible to lose salvation?

    Hm. Such misunderstanding. I mean, I don't disagree with all of what you say, Ronald. But... yeah, that's enough. <smile> Well, I will say, I'm not sure why you stopped in Hebrews 4 after the first few verses. Just a few more and you would have read, "Let us therefore strive to enter...
  4. PinSeeker

    Revelation 20: 5&6

    Continued from above... Okay, well, I don't ask loaded questions. I don't even know what that means. "Suit my particular personal philosophy"? Yeah, no idea. I asked you a yes or no question. It was what it was, and it is what it is. If you're, like, scared to answer it for some reason...
  5. PinSeeker

    Revelation 20: 5&6

    Well, maybe that's your fault, Davy. <smile> You asked what I mean by a "wooden understanding," and what I gave you was very sufficient. Yeah, a movie with wooden dialogue, meaning very shallow, and/or having no real depth or substance... superficial... we might call it "missing the forest...
  6. PinSeeker

    Revelation 20: 5&6

    No need for any kind of lecture, Fred. I'm not here agreeing or disagreeing with you, but again, one of my main points was that many people mistake who really makes up the Israel of God. Ohhhhh... boy... <smile> Hmm. Lumping all these things together in one question is problematic, Fred...
  7. PinSeeker

    Revelation 20: 5&6

    Yes, Davy, I know this was in response to not me but @Luther7 ... But just because someone's understanding of something is to any degree different than yours does not necessarily mean they have not understood that something. I'm not sure what @Luther7 really believes regarding the "thousand...
  8. PinSeeker

    Revelation 20: 5&6

    I know. <smile> This should help: Many times, you'll hear a movie critic's review of a movie, and he/she will say, "this film is filled with wooden dialogue..." So, what we're talking about here, or at least I am, is ~ and really, no offense intended ~ is your wooden understandings of parts...
  9. PinSeeker

    Is it possible to lose salvation?

    That does not invalidate in anyway the distinctions; they are what they are. They're just general categories, Ronald, that's all. The civil and ceremonial laws do not apply to us anymore, because we have a "better law" ~ Christ, of course. But the moral laws are absolutely still in effect...
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    Revelation 20: 5&6

    I know. <smile> I do, too, though, just not... woodenly. <smile> Yes it was, Absolutely. A perfect cube. Sure. In principle, Davy, even these "fleshly minded men" would say its height is the same as its length, but say that speaks of the complete, perfect, even symmetrical quality of it...
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    Is it possible to lose salvation?

    Well, right, but the Mosaic law consisted of three kinds of laws ~ civil, ceremonial, and moral. Right; see above. No, the Sabbath is still here, but not in the form it was... or when it was, actually,the seventh day of the week. It is now the first day of the week, made that way by Jesus in...
  12. PinSeeker

    Revelation 20: 5&6

    <chuckles> I didn't. I guess you're just reading that into my post because you know that's where I stand. But I didn't. I actually agreed with you... mostly, anyway... regarding what you posted, Davy. My goodness. That's Psalm 2 (no second 's'), not Psalms 2... There are not multiple...
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    Revelation 20: 5&6

    Agreed. The exact cubic measurements may be the exact dimensions of the city, but more likely represent the fullness, completeness and perfection of the city rather than the physical dimensions of it. As you know, I'm sure, the numbers 10, 12, and 1,000 are used throughout the Bible to...
  14. PinSeeker

    Revelation 20: 5&6

    The setting is after the "thousand years," God's millennium... these last days, as the writer of Hebrews puts it ~ "Long ago, at many times and in many ways, God spoke to our fathers by the prophets, but in these last days He has spoken to us by His Son..." (Hebrews 1:1-2) ~ the time of...
  15. PinSeeker

    Revelation 20: 5&6

    Right. There's no "pre-trib rapture." What Jesus is talking about here is His return, that it will be sudden and unexpected. And ultimately, after the final Judgment, they ~ the ones not in Christ, the unsaved, will depart. We will be on His right in the final Judgment, and we will actually...
  16. PinSeeker

    Revelation 20: 5&6

    Well of course you do. <smile> But you continue to make comments that cause me to think you really don't, but only think you do. <smile> Right, I agree, but people mistake who makes up the Israel of God. That's been my point for several posts now. And this is precisely the mistake...
  17. PinSeeker

    Revelation 20: 5&6

    Ugh. <chuckles> Grace and peace to you, RDB.
  18. PinSeeker

    Revelation 20: 5&6

    Hmmm, well, for example... <smile> ...neither does the word 'trinity,' but we talk about the triune Godhead often. We have plenty of words that are absolutely descriptive of Biblical things and concepts. To automatically label something as a "false representation" that "causes confusion" is...
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    Revelation 20: 5&6

    @Fred J And now back to Revelation 20 and the resurrection... <smile> Yes, the mention in Revelation 20:4-5 of a first resurrection strongly implies that there is a second resurrection. The difference between the two is that... well: First resurrection: Spiritual and individual in nature...
  20. PinSeeker

    Revelation 20: 5&6

    Fred, grace and peace to you in the name of the Lord Jesus Christ. There is a "true Israel," clearly, in God's Word, although those exact words don't appear. Paul says in Romans 2:28-29 the following: "For no one is a Jew who is merely one outwardly, nor is circumcision outward and...