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Of course I reject that. I believe the written Word of God. You cannot provide any scriptural support that the woman is the Christian Church. What do you do with this verse? Pretend it's not there? Romans 11 25 For I would not, brethren, that ye should be ignorant of this mystery, lest ye...

Here is scriptural support that the woman is Israel. Rev 12 1 And there appeared a great wonder in heaven; a woman clothed with the sun, and the moon under her feet, and upon her head a crown of twelve stars: Do you have any scriptural support that the woman is the Church? There is nothing...

The beast is still around for Armageddon. Revelation 16 13 And I saw three unclean spirits like frogs come out of the mouth of the dragon, and out of the mouth of the beast, and out of the mouth of the false prophet. 14 For they are the spirits of devils, working miracles, which go forth unto...

I believe Word of God. God goes to lengths to tell us exactly who the 144,000 are. They 12,000 from each tribe. There is no way you can understand the Bible when you change things like the 144,000 are 5 million Jews. And you can't answer this question. If the 144,000 are 5,000,000 Jews, what...

What men swayed me into the truth that the wrath of God is ONE YEAR. Please name some men who teach that the wrath of God is ONE YEAR. This is a crock brother. What men teach that the wrath of God is ONE YEAR? I challenge you to name some that teach this scriptural FACT. The Word of says the...

The woman is Israel. Period. The woman flees to a place of protection. Not all of Israel flee. Those that don't are killed. Homework was done year ago. Exactly what I am explaining to you. So no need to think you are providing any education about the house of Judah or the house of Israel. It...

No contradiction. And you act like I don't know Rev 12 and Jacob etc. How do you know what I know? You are not educating me in the least. Again. This has nothing WHATSOEVER to do with what we are talking about, and I already know all this. The point is that all 12 tribes have spread across...

No. It's addressing the Lord himself coming for His bride, at the trump of God or voice of God. Here is the secret rapture in the Old Testament. The Lord comes first in the spring for the dead in Christ. The Lord returns for the alive that remain at the end of summer. Song of Solomon 8 The...

Revelation 8 9, 10, 11, 16 Is ONE YEAR LONG to Armageddon. The Day of the Lord is one day long AT Armageddon. Totally and completely incorrect. The 7 trumpets and 7 vials are Gods wrath. They happen in the exact same timeframe. Paul has a vision. He sees 7 trumpets. Paul has another vision. He...

Hi GG, I do not see two raptures in the passages of Revelation14. There is a pretribulation rapture (1 Thessalonians 4:16-17) which happens at the trump of God or voice of God, when the Lord himself comes for his bride. Then there is a prewrath rapture which is the second harvest which happens...

Dispensationalism is premil and you are free to police your own thread.

The problem for that view is this rapture happens at the 6th seal and then unbelievers are cast into the wrath of God which is the 7th seal. Of course, there are many things that you skip over and pretend they don't happen, so I got no clue what you have going on. What I do know is that it will...

We can find this second rapture which is post trib/pre wrath harvest in Revelation......here. Revelation 14 14 And I looked, and behold a white cloud, and upon the cloud one sat like unto the Son of man, having on his head a golden crown, and in his hand a sharp sickle. 15 And another angel...

Of course I knew that. I was not counting the two witnesses, nor the 144,000 first fruits raptures. However, it seems you understand that the first harvest of the Gentiles will be before the great tribulation. There is however at post trib which is pre wrath harvest that occurs at the 6th seal...

if that was true there would not be 144,000 first fruits of the second rapture This is correct, but you are talking about the second rapture.

I believe there are two raptures. One pre trib and one post trib which is pre wrath. I was post trib years ago before realizing post trib is really pre wrath. All those that think they are post trib are really post wrath.

Thank you for your opinion, God's Grace

This is incorrect. Verse 29 is clearly marked by the signs of the sun, moon and stars. Verse 29 occurs at the 6th seal. Revelation 6 12 And I beheld when he had opened the sixth seal, and, lo, there was a great earthquake; and the sun became black as sackcloth of hair, and the moon became as...

1 Thes 4 16 For the Lord himself shall descend from heaven with a shout, with the voice of the archangel, and with the trump of God: and the dead in Christ shall rise first: 17 Then we which are alive and remain shall be caught up together with them in the clouds, to meet the Lord in the air...

Exactly. 100% true. I already know this. What you don't seem to know is that those that live in the nation of Israel is the woman of Revelation 12. Those scattered around the world that are not in Israel are her seed no matter whether they are from the house of Judah or the house of Israel...