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  1. The Light

    Maybe I Am Not Understanding the Post Tribulation Rapture. - Can You Help?

    From what I see you are skipping all those first 6 trumpets and vials of wrath. Your timeline only works because you skip things because you do not understand where they go.
  2. The Light

    Maybe I Am Not Understanding the Post Tribulation Rapture. - Can You Help?

    The elect gathered from heaven will be the Church who are the first fold. Those gathered from the earth will be mostly of the 12 tribes, the seed of the woman. The 144,000 are the first fruits of this harvest which will occur at the 6th seal and is seen here. Revelation 14 14 And I looked, and...
  3. The Light

    Maybe I Am Not Understanding the Post Tribulation Rapture. - Can You Help?

    You have to skip the trumpets and vials to make this work. Pretend they are not there and then you have a problem with the 7th trumpet and the 7th vial.
  4. The Light

    Maybe I Am Not Understanding the Post Tribulation Rapture. - Can You Help?

    How is the tribulation over before Jesus comes? Wouldn't Jesus have to come to end the tribulation?
  5. The Light

    Maybe I Am Not Understanding the Post Tribulation Rapture. - Can You Help?

    Okay, Einstein. Please explain, as you surely don't understand Matthew 24:29-31 and Mark 13:24-27. If Jesus comes only one time as you claim and it is immediately after the tribulation doesn't that mean Armageddon is already over in your timeline. If Jesus comes only once immediately after the...
  6. The Light

    Maybe I Am Not Understanding the Post Tribulation Rapture. - Can You Help?

    Always the blind man telling me what he sees. I don't reject that at all. I know He comes with His angels and gathers the elect from heaven and earth. I also know that those gathered return to heaven for the marriage supper of the lamb. There are two folds that are joined to one fold. Can you...
  7. The Light

    Maybe I Am Not Understanding the Post Tribulation Rapture. - Can You Help?

    Do you think the Chosen People are the Jews?
  8. The Light

    Maybe I Am Not Understanding the Post Tribulation Rapture. - Can You Help?

    There are no scriptures I reject. I reject your understanding of them.
  9. The Light

    Maybe I Am Not Understanding the Post Tribulation Rapture. - Can You Help?

    In other words, you reject Gods Word showing that He will turn to His Chosen when the fullness of the Gentiles comes in. Right. There is one coming after the tribulation that occurs at the sixth seal before the 7th seal which contains the wrath of God. Don't need to change it. All you need to...
  10. The Light

    Maybe I Am Not Understanding the Post Tribulation Rapture. - Can You Help?

    In other words, you can provide no scriptural backup to support your claims.
  11. The Light

    Maybe I Am Not Understanding the Post Tribulation Rapture. - Can You Help?

    Brother. Why do you not just accept what is written. Why do you need to change the scripture when the answer is already given. You lose the whole purpose that the 144,000 are from 12 tribes. Revelation 7 3 Saying, Hurt not the earth, neither the sea, nor the trees, till we have sealed the...
  12. The Light

    Maybe I Am Not Understanding the Post Tribulation Rapture. - Can You Help?

    Are you serious? Do you not understand that the false religion from Babylon has a false Christ? Do you not understand that the false religion of Babylon has the sun as the father God. A ray of the sun impregnates a human woman and has a son who is savior of the world. There are many, many false...
  13. The Light

    Maybe I Am Not Understanding the Post Tribulation Rapture. - Can You Help?

    Exactly. When the scriptural proof is presented your course of action is to stick your head in the sand. There will be a coming AFTER the tribulation. Problem is, you think that the tribulation is 7th seal wrath of God, when scripture says that the tribulation is OVER at the 6th seal. There is...
  14. The Light

    Maybe I Am Not Understanding the Post Tribulation Rapture. - Can You Help?

    I reject your notion that the woman in Revelation 12 is the Church for many reasons. First, we can see the Church is in heaven before any seals are opened in Revelation 5. Secondly, the Word of God tells us that the woman in Revelation 12 is Israel. This is an undeniable fact for anyone that...
  15. The Light

    The "watch rapture view"

    He has a bow in his hand because He is Horus/Apollo the false Christ. How can the great tribulation be 7 years long when the great tribulation begins in the midst of the week when the AOD is set up?
  16. The Light

    Maybe I Am Not Understanding the Post Tribulation Rapture. - Can You Help?

    What you are telling me is that you do not know the difference between a parable and a prophecy. The story of the 10 virgins is a parable. The 144,000 first fruits, 12,000 from each tribe is a prophecy. One is parable and one is a prophecy. What part of 144,000, twelve thousand from each tribe...
  17. The Light

    Maybe I Am Not Understanding the Post Tribulation Rapture. - Can You Help?

    I see no claims of 2 years of God's wrath.
  18. The Light

    Maybe I Am Not Understanding the Post Tribulation Rapture. - Can You Help?

    I don't think this is correct because the two witness are killed and raptured right before the 7th trumpet. The 7th trumpet is the end of Gods wrath. The kingdoms of this world are become the kingdoms of our Lord. Revelation 11 12 And they heard a great voice from heaven saying unto them, Come...
  19. The Light

    Maybe I Am Not Understanding the Post Tribulation Rapture. - Can You Help?

    You are correct, not even remotely. So what is going on? See below when you get to the last comment. You are correct, not even remotely. So what is going on? See below when you get to the last comment. The 7 vials all happen in order. The wrath of God lasts one year, so the trumpets and vials...
  20. The Light

    Maybe I Am Not Understanding the Post Tribulation Rapture. - Can You Help?

    Of course it does. I think that has to be the case. I am not saying the first vial is poured out during the first trumpet. I'm saying John has a vision about the wrath of God, 7 angels with 7 trumpets. John has a separate vision about the wrath of God. This time the 7 angels have 7 vials. You...