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  1. The Light

    PRETRIB RAPTURE ANCIENT ROOTS

    Do a search on the "fulness of the Gentiles". You should find something. Negatory. Jerusalem shall be trodden down of the Gentiles, until the times of the Gentiles be fulfilled. The court of the Temple mount is still under control of the Gentiles. Sure we should. Until the Dome of the Rock is...
  2. The Light

    PRETRIB RAPTURE ANCIENT ROOTS

    I posted the scripture that shows that Jerusalem will be trodden down until the times of the Gentiles is complete. I posted the scripture that shows that the courtyard of the Temple is given to the Gentiles and will be tread on 42 months. The fullness of the Gentiles is completed at the...
  3. The Light

    PRETRIB RAPTURE ANCIENT ROOTS

    The fullness of the Gentiles and times of the Gentiles are not the same thing. The fullness of the Gentiles will be complete at the pretribulation rapture. The pretribulation rapture obviously happens before the great tribulation. The times of Gentiles is another matter. Jerusalem shall be...
  4. The Light

    PRETRIB RAPTURE ANCIENT ROOTS

    Yes, He does and the righteous are reaped Yes, and the unrighteous are reaped. Douggg, I see nothing in scripture that says that there are two different locations. The Bible says the EARTH is reaped by both Jesus and the angel with the sickle. The earth reaped of the righteous and the...
  5. The Light

    PRETRIB RAPTURE ANCIENT ROOTS

    He returns at the 6th seal. He remains in the clouds and sends His angels to gather the elect. He remains in the clouds. All return to heaven for the marriage supper. We meet Him in the air and return to heaven during the wrath of God. He's got to come and get us. No. I said it wrong...
  6. The Light

    PRETRIB RAPTURE ANCIENT ROOTS

    The gathering takes place at the 6th seal. We are in heaven during the one year wrath of God at the marriage supper. That's correct. Now notice that the specific event occurs at the end of the trumpets and vials.
  7. The Light

    PRETRIB RAPTURE ANCIENT ROOTS

    Can you understand harvest?
  8. The Light

    PRETRIB RAPTURE ANCIENT ROOTS

    Since dispensationalists aren't doing the actual rapture that has no effect. Do you think God needs DNA to figure out who is who? How come every conversation with you turns into the tale of the DNA?
  9. The Light

    PRETRIB RAPTURE ANCIENT ROOTS

    Please Doug. Jesus swings the sickle for the righteous and the angels gather them. They are going to heaven for marriage supper. The second angel swings the sickle for the unrighteous. The unrighteous are cast into the wrath of God. This event occurs at the 6th seal.
  10. The Light

    PRETRIB RAPTURE ANCIENT ROOTS

    LOL. I almost made mention of DNA for laughs.
  11. The Light

    PRETRIB RAPTURE ANCIENT ROOTS

    Would Jesus send the angels to gather the elect from heaven and earth if they weren't changed? Here is the rapture of the 12 tribes across the earth which occurs at the last trump which is blown on the Feast of Trumpets. 1 Corinthians 15 51 Behold, I shew you a mystery; We shall not all sleep...
  12. The Light

    PRETRIB RAPTURE ANCIENT ROOTS

    The beast was and is not and will come again. Sounds like a future event.
  13. The Light

    PRETRIB RAPTURE ANCIENT ROOTS

    Yeah, that's the election. Read Romans 11
  14. The Light

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    Symbolic???????????????????? Rapture of the Church???????????????? Why do those that get victory over beast sing the song of Moses????????????? Revelation 15 2 And I saw as it were a sea of glass mingled with fire: and them that had gotten the victory over the beast, and over his image, and...
  15. The Light

    PRETRIB RAPTURE ANCIENT ROOTS

    Your lack of understanding is only outweighed by your refusal to believe what is written. Don't be ignorant of this mystery. Romans 11 25 For I would not, brethren, that ye should be ignorant of this mystery, lest ye should be wise in your own conceits; that blindness in part is happened to...
  16. The Light

    PRETRIB RAPTURE ANCIENT ROOTS

    Do they have the power to gather the elect from heaven and earth when the Lord sends them?
  17. The Light

    PRETRIB RAPTURE ANCIENT ROOTS

    What? Exactly Exactly Exactly Exactly You are cross contaminating the fullness of the Gentiles with the times of the Gentiles. Not the same thing. The fullness of the Gentiles is complete at the rapture of the Gentile bride. Yes. Those of the 12 tribes across the earth, the seed of the...
  18. The Light

    PRETRIB RAPTURE ANCIENT ROOTS

    Here is the rapture that occurs at the 6th seal immediately after the tribulation of those days. The signs of the sun, moon and stars show that Matthew 24 occurs at the 6th seal. Matthew 24 31 And he shall send his angels with a great sound of a trumpet, and they shall gather together his elect...
  19. The Light

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    And yet the verses are talking about the people of Daniel and not all people. Oh, the old fly in the ointment.
  20. The Light

    PRETRIB RAPTURE ANCIENT ROOTS

    I realize that you don't understand these things. If you did you would realize like I did that Jesus comes for the Church before the great tribulation. And then He comes at the 6th seal before wrath, after the man of sin is revealed. Sadly, you have no clue how close His coming is. Remember...