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    Battle for Jerusalem in 70 AD

    OK. If all the stones have been thrown down, what sign was there when that event occurred? Luke 21 6 As for these things which ye behold, the days will come, in the which there shall not be left one stone upon another, that shall not be thrown down. 7 And they asked him, saying, Master, but...
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    Battle for Jerusalem in 70 AD

    Contrary to popular belief, Matthew 24:1-2 is an unfulfilled prophecy. There is still one stone upon another.
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    Rapture ... soon?

    Absolutely events happen when each seal is actually opened. You say this is not prophecy. BINGO. It's the fulfillment of prophecy. Your logic and reasoning are left wanting. I cannot understand why you make the simplest of things an issue. One more time. John has a vision of 7 seven seals...
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    Rapture ... soon?

    Do you understand that the trumpets and vials both happen in the same timeframe? The seals are opened in order. Then when the 7th seal is opened the trumpets and vials happen in order 1st trumpet, 1st vial, 2nd trumpet, 2nd vial etc. etc. I feel like there might be a real gem here, but I can't...
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    Rapture ... soon?

    I guess you have missed all the posts I have made, where I have stated that the seals are prophecy. When Jesus tells us of His coming, that is prophecy also. Your above comment above is taken from a page out of WPM's playbook. Deny you were answered. Pretend it didn't happen. I would think you...
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    Rapture ... soon?

    Hi Marilyn, I believe the last trump of 1 Corinthians 15 is blown on the Feast of Trumpets. It will be the rapture of the 12 tribes across the earth, the seed of the woman Israel. The trump of God of 1 Thes 4 is the voice of God.
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    Rapture ... soon?

    The fall feasts are for the Jews and the Feast of Trumpets is a harvest feast. There are two raptures. One for the Christians in the summer and one for the twelve tribes across the earth, the seed of the woman, in the fall. This is why there are 144,000 first fruits. They are the first fruits of...
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    Rapture ... soon?

    Yes, the fall feasts are for Israel. The Feast of Trumpets is a fall harvest feast and the seed of the woman, the twelve tribes across the earth, are raptured at the coming of Jesus at the 6th seal. The 144,000 from the twelve tribes are the first fruits of this harvest. The Lord would not be...
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    Rapture ... soon?

    Wrong HOW? The seals have not happened they are prophecy. Do you disagree? The sun and moon are darkened, and the stars fall from heaven after the 6th seal is opened. CHECK......SO FAR SO GOOD. Immediately after the tribulation of those days, the sun and moon are darked, and the stars fall...
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    Rapture ... soon?

    You seem to be having trouble with deductive reasoning. First, look up the definition of deductive reasoning and then reread the following. Revelation 6 12 And I beheld when he had opened the sixth seal, and, lo, there was a great earthquake; and the sun became black as sackcloth of hair, and...
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    Rapture ... soon?

    Scripture says differently. Revelation 6 12 And I beheld when he had opened the sixth seal, and, lo, there was a great earthquake; and the sun became black as sackcloth of hair, and the moon became as blood; 13 And the stars of heaven fell unto the earth, even as a fig tree casteth her...
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    Both Pretribbers and Preterists are clearly wrong that great tribulation begins with the DOTL.

    Yes. It is obvious that the 6th trumpets are in the 7th seal and do not take place in the 1st six seals. Your error is not understanding that the coming of Jesus in Matthew 24 occurs at the 6th seal and not at the end of the trumpets. When He comes at the end of the trumpets, it is for...
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    Both Pretribbers and Preterists are clearly wrong that great tribulation begins with the DOTL.

    Correct. No. The 6 trumpets are in the 7th seal. The 7th seal does not take place in Matthew 24. Matthew 24:29-31 occurs at the 6th seal, which is the second coming. Jesus remains in the clouds and sends His angels to gather the elect from heaven and earth. All return to heaven for the marriage...
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    Both Pretribbers and Preterists are clearly wrong that great tribulation begins with the DOTL.

    Exactly my point. The 1st six trumpets are the day of wrath which lasts one year. The Day of the Lord, the 7th trumpet occurs on one day. Of course. The 7th seal contains the trumpets and vials. They occur in the same timeframe. The 1st 6 trumpets are the one year wrath of God. The 7th trumpet...
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    Rapture ... soon?

    The Feast of Trumpets is not in the tribulation. The Feast of Trumpets is immediately after the tribulation of those days which is the great tribulation. This is when Jesus comes at the 6th seal. Also, the Day of Atonement is not shown symbolically in Revelation 8. Revelation 8 is part of the...
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    Rapture ... soon?

    The Church will be raptured in the summer. The fall Feast of Trumpets is for the Jews.
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    Both Pretribbers and Preterists are clearly wrong that great tribulation begins with the DOTL.

    Correct. I believe you are confusing the day of Gods wrath which is the 1st six trumpets of the 7th seal with the DOTL which is the 7th trumpet. The day of wrath lasts one year. The DOTL occurs in one day This is bad logic. The 1st trumpet occurs in the 7th seal.......which is after the 6th...
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    Two Gatherings at Jesus' Coming

    Which resurrection of the saints are you referring to? The dead in Christ will rise first. Pentecost barley harvest. 1 Thes 4 16 For the Lord himself shall descend from heaven with a shout, with the voice of the archangel, and with the trump of God: and the dead in Christ shall rise first...
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    Two Gatherings at Jesus' Coming

    No sir. The Feast of Trumpets is in harmony with Matthew 24. It is the second rapture that occurs at the 6th seal as marked by the signs of the sun, moon and stars. This is the seed of the woman, the twelve tribes across the earth, that are raptured at the 6th seal. This is the harvest after the...
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    Two Gatherings at Jesus' Coming

    I believe that Pentecost is when the dead in Christ will be raptured. It is the spring barley harvest. The Feast of New Wine is not one of the 7 Feasts of the Lord. However, to many, it is the true Pentecost as contrary to popular belief, this is the day that the Holy Spirit was poured out on...