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  1. The Light

    PRETRIB RAPTURE ANCIENT ROOTS

    How many times do you have to be answered. Everyone knows you MO. Deny, you've been answered.......deny, deny, deny. I could answer a thousand times, and it would be DENY, DENY, DENY. On a side note, many of questions you ask want to limit the use of the Old Testament. Are you saying the Old...
  2. The Light

    PRETRIB RAPTURE ANCIENT ROOTS

    If there is only one coming of Jesus what do you do with this coming of Jesus for the 144,000 first fruits of the second harvest. Revelation 14 1 And I looked, and, lo, a Lamb stood on the mount Sion, and with him an hundred forty and four thousand, having his Father's name written in their...
  3. The Light

    PRETRIB RAPTURE ANCIENT ROOTS

    Please look for the post that has already addressed these things.
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    PRETRIB RAPTURE ANCIENT ROOTS

    You got one thing right. The Church is gathered after the tribulation. THE CHURCH IS GATHERED FROM HEAVEN AFTER THE TRIBULATION. We return with the Lord as there is also a gathering from the earth. Mark 13 27 And then shall he send his angels, and shall gather together his elect from the four...
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    Messiah 2030

    New or old, false accusations are false accusations.
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    Messiah 2030

    First off, I am not claiming a 7 year treaty as the covenant with many in Daniel 9:27. It is a 7 year covenant, not a treaty. So your premise is in error. Secondly, do I have agree with every single point that this individual makes to be able to say there is a video that has scriptures that...
  7. The Light

    Messiah 2030

    He also told us if therefore thou shall not watch thou shalt not know what hour I will come upon thee. Perhaps you are unaware that Jesus went to the Father. Perhaps you are unaware that Johns Revelation came after Jesus went to the Father. Revelation 3 3 Remember therefore how thou hast...
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    The 6th seal great tribulation

    Totally and completely INCORRECT. How can the 6th seal have anything to do with the 4th trumpet of the 7th seal. Your logic has no merit and is baseless.
  9. The Light

    The 6th seal great tribulation

    You are starting off on the wrong foot. The persecution of the saints is the great tribulation. It occurs at the 5th seal The great tribulation if over when the 6th seal is opened. Jesus comes for a harvest, hence a great multitude in heaven in Revelation 7 The 7th seal is the one-year wrath...
  10. The Light

    IS THE RAPTURE BEFORE THE TRIBULATION?

    It seems more likely that what he taught is what the Word of God says. Since I don't know what he taught, I couldn't say. I believed that the rapture was prewrath and occurs at the 6th seal.......like the Word of God says. Then I realized who will be raptured at the 6th seal and it isn't the...
  11. The Light

    IS THE RAPTURE BEFORE THE TRIBULATION?

    I read the Word of God and it speaks for itself unless you make it symbolic or spiritualize it. I posted a video that says differently. FACTS. It would seem that much has been sealed until the time of the end. We are at the time of the end. And yet you cannot use the Word of God to disprove...
  12. The Light

    IS THE RAPTURE BEFORE THE TRIBULATION?

    I don't know a thing about Scofield beyond the fact he put reference notes in his Scofield Bible. I've never read them so I don't have his hatchet. Jesus ministry was to the Jews, but they would not. Matthew 24 37 O Jerusalem, Jerusalem, thou that killest the prophets, and stonest them which...
  13. The Light

    IS THE RAPTURE BEFORE THE TRIBULATION?

    Exactly. There will be some Jews and some Greeks. Not all Jews are Israel and not all Greeks are Israel. As each of the two folds are harvested, they will become the Israel of God. Who says there is a second covenant with unbelief? Some of the broken off branches will be regrafted. Simple And...
  14. The Light

    IS THE RAPTURE BEFORE THE TRIBULATION?

    So not all Jews are of Israel? Neither are all Gentiles Don't be ignorant of Romans 11 25 For I would not, brethren, that ye should be ignorant of this mystery, lest ye should be wise in your own conceits; that blindness in part is happened to Israel, until the fulness of the Gentiles be come...
  15. The Light

    IS THE RAPTURE BEFORE THE TRIBULATION?

    Jesus taught two raptures. Most just can't see it. Jesus used the words ONE OF THE DAYS of the Son of man. The son of man comes as lightning in His day. And there is more than once He does this. Luke 17 22 And he said unto the disciples, The days will come, when ye shall desire to see one of...
  16. The Light

    IS THE RAPTURE BEFORE THE TRIBULATION?

    Oh, I get it. Who taught you this nonsense. You need RE-search without the goggles. It was prophesied and it happened. FACT. You can tell God that it didn't happen if you want. I'm going to believe what is written. We are talking 1800 years, not a hundred years, not 200 years. God kept a...
  17. The Light

    IS THE RAPTURE BEFORE THE TRIBULATION?

    From this end it is like talking to the blind that want to tell me what they see. Please feel free to point out any words of Christ that I have twisted. I await chapter and verse and how I have twisted it. What you are saying is you did no RE-search. You just gobbled up what was regurgitated...
  18. The Light

    IS THE RAPTURE BEFORE THE TRIBULATION?

    Those that are taken are the righteous. The Church is taken to heaven before the seals are opened. Song of Solomon 8 The voice of my beloved! behold, he cometh leaping upon the mountains, skipping upon the hills. 9 My beloved is like a roe or a young hart: behold, he standeth behind our wall...
  19. The Light

    IS THE RAPTURE BEFORE THE TRIBULATION?

    Yes, the Church is raptured before the tribulation. The great tribulation begins when the Abomination of Desolation is set up in the midst of the week. Immediately after the tribulation the Lord sends His angels to gather the elect from heaven and earth. It is the 12 tribes across the earth...