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You spiritualize everything away because it exposes your teaching. This is talking about the judgment. Human Christians will judge both the wicked and angels. Fact! Your constant battle is with Scripture.

1 Corinthians 6:2: "Do ye not know that the saints shall judge the world? and if the world shall be judged by you, are ye unworthy to judge the smallest matters? Know ye not that we shall judge angels?" This passage distinguishes between believers and unbelievers. It also distinguishes between...

He doesn't want to get it. He has bought into the absurdity of this teaching. Hard to believe. It is so nonsensical and so unbiblical.

Yea right Mr Avoidance!!! It is a waste of time engaging with you. No scriptural support. No historic support amongst solid Bible commentators, just you and your mentor promoting this nonsense, along with the heretics. Telling!

You have invented your own heretical theology. TS has deceived you. You have no answer to the Op. That is why you duck around it. Typical Pretrib tactics when they have no Scripture.

All you have is private opinions that I have never heard or read any other Christian espouse. That is because you have been misled. We have watched it happen. So sad!

What solid respected man of God in history taught this?

More nonsense!

According to how TS has taught you. What solid respected man of God in history taught this? Hello! You 2 are on your own along with the heretics. Repent!

Hello! It is talking about natural darkness and natural light. Check the context. He is speaking about the natural order, He then turns to the spiritual. The natural came 1st. That is a biblical pattern.

I just did!

Why did you place 3 questions marks after the last answer?

It doesn't say that. You impute that into the narrative. Everything God created was very good, including Adam and Eve. Adam and Eve did good before God or they could not have been in a right relationship with Him.

I have already explained this and you have already totally avoided each point and Scripture. I will repeat. The phase "the beginning" typically refers to the beginning of creation and earth. Just like the regeneration when Jesus comes refers to "the end" of creation and earth as we know it...

So, who is this describing?

So, angels (who are spirits of God) are distinct to man? Do they work independent of man, albeit they are "sent to minister to the heirs of salvation"? Where do they come from? Were angels here before man? Were angels in heaven before the first resurrection?

This shows that Satan was an "anointed cherub" (Ezekiel 28:14&16), was at one time in the "Paradise of God" (Ezekiel 28:13), he protected "the holy mountain of God" (Ezekiel 28:14), he was created "perfect" in his ways "from the day" he was "created" till "iniquity was found in" him (Ezekiel...

You are incapable of refuting the truth. That is because you are full of heresy. The one you deny is misleading you.

Of course he is created. Read the biblical evidence in the Op. Ezekiel 28:12-19: “Son of man, take up a lamentation upon the king of Tyrus, and say unto him, Thus saith the Lord GOD; Thou sealest up the sum, full of wisdom, and perfect in beauty. Thou hast been in Eden the garden of God; every...

Op Note Pick a page on this thread and notice how TribulationSigns and rwb have failed to address or rebut the Op or any of the scriptural arguments presented to them. Their denial of angels and demons/Satan is both grievous and heretical. They have ducked and dived around the biblical...