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The point is that the Church is in heaven before the Trib begins. I don't know how you can have the Church in heaven before the Tribulation is presented and that not indicate a pre-70th week rapture. When do you think the Church is Raptured in relation to the 70th week?

Rev 6. 3 When the Lamb opened the second seal, I heard the second living creature say, “Come!” 4 Then another horse came out, a fiery red one. Its rider was given power to take peace from the earth and to make people kill each other. This is just one part of the tribulation in the first half of...

Rev 4.4 is the first mention of the 24 elders and they represent the Church based on their description. 2 At once I was in the Spirit, and there before me was a throne in heaven with someone sitting on it. 3 And the one who sat there had the appearance of jasper and ruby. A rainbow that shone...

Sorry, my mistake

The entire 7 years will be tribulation, the second half of the tribulation is the great tribulation. I agree one can say 7 year 70th week. But i don't see where the 70th week differs from the 7 year Tribulation

Matt 24.15 is the Abomination of Desolation, which occurs after verse 9.

I can't read the small print. What mistake did I make?

Daniel's 70th seven (of years) is recorded in Dan 9.27 where we are told that mid way through this time (3 1/2 years) of trouble he (the Antichrist) will bring an end to sacrifices and offerings. So, the 70th seven is divided into two halves. In Revelation we are told that half of the 70th seven...

You are misunderstanding the word justify. You say, " Jesus Christ has justified the sins of all being paid for" You don't justify sins. That is not the correct usage of the word justify. What is your definition of justify. Then, look at a Greek lexicon and see what it means. You are just using...

God the Father was satisfied with the work of Christ upon the cross. i.e., he is propitiated. The atoning sacrifice is the payment for sins. Unbelievers sins have been atoned for, but that does not mean they are saved. Salvation is by accepting God's offer of salvation. As Christ said, by your...

This sounds like Universalism. Unbelievers are bought/redeemed (2 Peter 2.1) by the work of Christ upon the Cross, but no unbeliever is "justified." Justified equals salvation. Once the unbeliever is saved/justified, then then is to move forward in sanctification.

I don't necessarily see where being saved leads go a Spirit filled life. Yes, at the historical moment of faith in Christ for salvation you are indwelt and filled with the Spirit, while you can't lose the indwelling you can lose the filling (by sinning and therefore our of fellowship). That is...

We have all heard that God has a plan for our lives. Where is this doctrine taught in Scripture?

2.24 You see that a person is justified by works and not by faith alone (NET Bible) ὁρᾶτε ὅτι ἐξ ἔργων δικαιοῦται ἄνθρωπος καὶ οὐκ ἐκ πίστεως μόνον. Lets start with a corrected translation first before looking at one of the details You see that a man is justified by works, and not only...

I get sick and tired of people like you who don't read the full post and yet have the continental gall to reply to my post. Your theology is way off in the area of Soteriology. Why don't you do one of two things. Either read my post in full, or give up your membership in this forum. People like...

Did you just add awars?? I assume you meant awards. I don't see that in BDAG

what I am looking for is the original source of where BEMA is used of the Olympic games.

Can you provide me with the source from which you got this? I am looking for an original source in some ancient Greek usage.

You have probably heard that the Judgment seat of Christ takes its meaning from the Olympic Games. The scholars say that the Judges would sit on a raised platform and hand out rewards for the winners of the contests. I checked 30 commentaries by noted and not so noted scholars to find out just...

You have the right Bible. And I like the NSRVue translation. "himself God"