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You have made many points and missed them all. It does not take "intellect" to see the similarities that God has put before us in the earth and the moon. So, you're wrong about me arriving at my statement by my "intellect." No, the scriptures do not describe the earth as a circle. I says "He...

You are taking license not given to interpret things that way, or to make such a claim on that basis. That's deception. You are out of context. The "lesser light" and "greater light" passage in scripture is not at all referring the body or physical make up of the moon. However, it is obvious...

Honesty only in shallow water, no tough love, is this the measure of a true friend?

Well, now I don't know if you are for or against flat earth or global earth. I think you put snow in your dump truck!

No on the billions? And the huge oceans sticking to a ball, is not even science. The satanic sciences, yes, would have us all believe God is wrong and they are right. But God will not be mocked--someone already said that--because unbeknownst to most, time with God is actually an illusion. And...

Do you understand that men are prone to misinterpret the scriptures and therefore they must be spiritually discerned? (Should I have made my answer bold like your non-question question?) The point is...many are also prone to trying to understand the universe by the interpretations of men prone...

Cool! Hallelujah! pryw But I thought the discussion was about the flat earth theory :wink:

Okay, I am quoting your whole post. In the post before, you asked a question. I answered it, and went on to address the actual issue, that if you were straight on would clear up all the other issues you mentioned. So...there is a need to focus on one issue at a time--yes. I have often responded...

That is two-dimensional thinking of men. Do you have proof of liquid water above the firmament? No--it's just speculation, or worse, faith in the thinking of men rather than what God's words only elude to which need to be spiritually discerned. Everything of God is not to be explained by the...

Oh...there's a bunch of flat earth maps online...with ice walls and aliens, and a superstructure below, and gravity machines, and a self-healing dome overhead--and the waters of the firmament above in liquid form to boot! They've really spared no expense!

Yeah, that's only the smaller half of the equation.

Yeah, sure, anything can be justified according to whatever one wants to believe. But God has been more thorough in expressing things dimensionally: things like describing the never ending nature of eternity as "as far as the east is from the west", etc. And men--men have sailed it.

No, but rather one group's science and claims compared with another group's science and claims.

No, gravity is the result of centrifugal force (meaning fleeing from center)...as when a ball spins and revolves at the same time. But think about it (I can't believe we're having to have this elementary discussion), if a flat earth spun--yes--one would jump off a cliff and go sideways, or...

I never tried that.

When I said "psyop by God" I was not referring to any deception by Gods, but rather that He has made manifest an imperfect world of both good and evil, of light and also darkness, even withholding His perfect light for His own purpose. But thanks for quoting James 1:17--that is biblical proof...

What those men say compared with what these men say. Proves nothing.

Yes, but it is simpler than that, and the vehement attitude of those who don't actually know--yes, can certainly add to the problem.

For those of you who are struggling with this and perhaps have never been up in a small plane and looked out the window. A little hands on science: The Earth's curvature is visible from a small plane, provided you are at a sufficient altitude and the viewing conditions are right. This type of...

In my best experience (on Maui) it was a matter of descending a couple hundred feet of elevation that caused the visible, 30'-40' profile of a shipwrecked freighter that ran aground on Shipwreck Beach eight miles away on the island of Lanai to disappear when driving down to the coast road.