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Typical. Accuse me of believing a lie, as if God has not revealed Himself in His creation, then leaving out the passages of scripture that don't support your personal interpretation and doctrine. Who is the liar, you or these verses you conveniently avoided and left out that show you as being...

Okay...we (some of us) know what God made manifest. Now let's see how YOU would do it. Go ahead, let's see your physical, three dimensional mock up (manifestation) of God at the center of the universe emitting His Light in every direction causing both light and darkness to come AROUND daily...

You didn't answer the question. You also have completely misrepresented or misunderstood what I have said. If you had answered the question--you would have seen that what you have described of a flat earth is impossible if you have God (Light) manifest in the center emitting light in every...

This earth and solar system with sun and moon as lights for signs is a manifestation of what is true with God. As such (since you don't see it manifest with all-dimensional being global), how would you describe or make manifest a completely all-dimensional form with God (Light) at the center...

Hmmm...from all that he has said previous, I would have thought he believed the earth was flat.

Yes, and then he gives the terms of our existence and how it is made manifest by form...as God-centered, all-dimensional turning. And he does so in the middle of what many would consider a different context--hidden, like treasure hidden in a field! Add to that precept: All-dimensional "outer...

Who speaks down to people more than God, and who is it that actually speaks by one sent? You being offended is simply classic rejection, quite biblical. Unfortunately.

Indeed, there are those.

It's truly amazing how those who prescribe to "exegesis" practices have completely missed what would be proper biblical exegesis. Just amazing!

Oh it's good to study the words--it's just not good to "systematically explain or understand" them. The words are spirit--and you put them in boxes.

"Precept upon precept, here a little there a little"--yes, that is exactly how I am speaking to you.

Correction: That is all well and good in biblical principle. But most passages of scripture are not just written for their moral and godly behavioral benefit. More importantly, those moral topics are given like the commonly limited parables, for their greater meaning wherein the object is...

Tell that to the Author. Perhaps you thought that was me--it's not. In any case "exegesis" teachings are the teachings of men. Not a good reference.

No, that's not biblical--especially not biblical.

I addressed that. But no.

Think David, think! Is God actually, only, physically "above?" Is that what is true of God? No. Absolutely not! The diver is looking under the hood, but he doesn't know what he's looking at. It would have been better if you had allowed for God being "all around" as that would at least be two...

No, that would describe a run-rewind-run-rewind movement of the sun over the earth--not a "shadow of turning."

Wrong again. What I did was UN-twist the Words which are spirit and most commonly misinterpreted. The fact that you did not see that, is indeed clear enough.

The scriptures--by those same inspired words--do reveal a global earth...in the words: "shadow of turning" (James 1:17).

Why are you still using this "spinning ball" nonsense as your reason and justification for your beliefs? Do you not understand that gravity on earth is a combination of centrifugal force compounded by the greater, outer centrifugal forces also in the universe and solar system? Or...