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Again, a very excellent explanation of scripture.

Adding more: There are whole discourses that make emphatic statements regarding walking in the Light. I John 2:2-6 or later I John 2:28-29-3:1-7. Also Rom 3:31. Rev 20:11-13. Then we have in Matt 5:21-48 the Beatitudes, the 10 commandments of the NT. If we do the works of righteousness, He will...

and they all said, Amen, Amen, Amen

Here are some early Church Fathers who disagree with you. Speaking of Ignatius, he might have been taught by Peter and Paul. He became Bishop of Antioch in 60 AD. Ignatius (AD30-107) "Seeing, then, all things have an end, and there is set before us life upon our observance [of God’s...

You have a very long way to go to understand scripture in light of your OP and statements in this recent post. You need a serious study of Biblical theology. Your view has been refuted by scripture as it has always been understood from Apostolic times to the present. Your interpretation of...

So, you believe that God who created this world, hates most of the people who He created in His Image. Yet, He was willing to die for this world to redeem it from the power of death and sin. I John 2:2, Heb 2:9 and many others. God did not create man to be an object of manipulation but free to...

I don't disagree with the texts. I just disagree with your interpretation of them. I'll stick with what scripture has meant for 2000 years unchanged. I don't try to insert my opinion of what scripture means, or try to insert a theory and search for texts that might seem like they say what I...

As I stated, 2000 years of Christianity in practice and theological understanding shows you are not speaking what the Bible means in the verses you cite. It speaks to the opposite view of who God is, and why God created man in the first place. If God was going to choose man for salvation, He...

Again, you put forth your mantra but none of the texts or context fits your view that man has no will, independent of God. The fact that man had a free will from the very beginning is part of the nature of God in creating man in His Image. To say God is love, then to deny that love to mankind...

That may be a nice thought but nothing is scripture proclaims that any believer was chosen to be a believer. Those that Jesus called were already righteous, namely Nathaniel, Zachariah, Mary, even Joseph and probably many more. We also know that God uses foreknowledge in knowing the lives of...

Prove that it is. Saying it is garbage does nothing to advance the discussion. Or are you saying you cannot discuss it because you don't understand your own view in relation to what scripture has always meant. If your view is Biblical how come you cannot refute something that you see as garbage.

I'm game. I'll use a different tack, use theological arguments rather than just citing texts where you either assign whole new meanings to the text or words or just outright deny the text exists. Regarding your question above. Just two texts Heb 2:9 and I John 2:2. Christ's atonement...

Thanks. The atonement view developed by Anselm and Abelard in the 11th century. It is a view that the Roman Catholics accepted and was carried over by all the Reformers. I hold to the Christus Victor view.

None of these texts ever say that Christ, who is the seed, made believers by His death. Or as you have stated many times He converts them by His death. None of these texts say that. Lets take a closer look at Is 53:10, The seed here is Christ, not believers as you stated in a previous text...

If I plant a seed in the garden, would the fruit of that seed be believers? Seed is a metaphor. It has meaning based on context. It does not have the same meaning every time the word seed is used. Your thoughts are not even rational, or logical and leads to ridiculous statements as above. Ps...

You do know how to butcher a text. Just pull it out of context and assign a meaning that has absolutely no relevance to the text you are citing. From vs 10-13 the conversation is God speaking of Christ. You want to make Christ a believer. That is rich. You have a believer, who is the righteous...

I pray that someday you will see the light.

Again, you failed to explain just how that might work. Explain how God escapes being the sinner when He controls man's will? Until you can it is just a very misunderstood view that you are espousing. You need to develop a theological argument showing rationally, logically how God can control...

You haven't explained anything. You cite a text and proclaim your interpretation upon it, whether it makes sense or not, let alone being scriptural and historical. You seem to think that the Bible was just published and now everyone needs to find out what it means. The Gospel was known and...

It cannot be both ways, They are diametrically opposite. Your theory says so,, but both scripture and the understanding of foreknowledge makes them incompatible. The fact that Jesus was predestined to be slain we already knew that in Gen 3:15. The Bible states that it was the time to have Christ...