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They mean or do the same thing. Propitiation is "covering for sin" the sacrifice is what propitiates sin or reconciles mankind/world to God. This is what Christ did for the world/mankind. It is called believe/belief in Christ and what He did for us, which scripture calls, justification by...

You may believe so, but that is your choice. Scripture has never supported any of Calvin's 5 points. My prayer is that the Holy Spirit opens up your mind so that you may understand your error. The Holy Spirit was not wrong for 1500 years.

I could ask to produce the evidence but I know you cannot. Both scripture and 2000 years shows of understanding shows otherwise. History also shows that it is a false teaching of Calvinism.

Your statements shows that you do not understand the atonement. The atonement can be summed up with two verses in the Bible. I John 2:2, Heb 2:9. Christ accomplished two things. He defeated death and provided a sacrifice for sin. You can also say He defeated death and the power sin for all men...

Limited Atonement has not existed as part of the Gospel of Grace. It is antithetical to who Christ is and what He accomplished as our Incarnated Savior. It is a false teaching of Calvinism and was declared heretical by Synod of Jerusalem in 1672.

You are applying your meaning to individuals, namely how we are being saved through faith. Christ did not save individuals, personally by His death and resurrection. He saved mankind, actually the whole world from the power of sin and death. So your answer is absolutely everyone, He missed...

I have two texts that refutes your whole thesis. I John 2:2 and Heb 2:9. Then, my question to you is this. Do you believe in the Incarnation of Christ?

Coming from a man who cannot refute the Truth. You have built a grand theology of one which has no bearing on scripture in the least. God have mercy

Christ did not take on himself a fallen nature. He took upon Him self our human nature. Adam had a human nature that was not fallen. Christ, born of the Virgin had a human nature just like Adam. Or are you saying women don't have a human nature? Christ was not born fallen, or mortal. I'm not...

The idea that man was or was not born a sinner was challenged in the 4th and 5th century between Pelagius and Augustine. In the end both were incorrect and unscriptural. Pelagius believed all men were born in the same state as Adam was created. They each sinned and become mortal. Poor man could...

You use Rom 5:9-10 which is an introduction, though speaking to believers in Rome, he goes on from vs 12-21 explaining how the Incarnate Christ overcame the universal fall of man with the universal salvation from that fall. Another example of not fully understanding Christ's in carnation. Did...

Neither your personal opinion/interpretation or Calvin's will dissuade me from believing what all Christians believed before John Calvin introduced his erroneous theology in the 16th century. You are welcome to hold to your view, but it is not scriptural as it has always been understood. You...

What you fail to understand that believers are human beings. All human beings have the same human nature. Here he is speaking only and specifically to believers who obviously are part of the human race. What you fail to understand that all human beings were redeemed from death and sin for the...

It is kinda funny that you attempt to use the Greek as if that helps your cause. You do know that the Church had only one language, Greek, for the first 900 years of existence. I think they knew their Greek. Yet they don't have the same understanding as you do.

You come from a sola scriptura which was developed within the Reformation. I come from a solid scriptural background, teaching and understanding that has not changed for 2000 years. That is the work of the Holy Spirit within His Body, the Church. I don't put any stock in interpretations and...

this text is part of the prophesy and is speaking of Israel as the purpose of the Church. A corresponding text in the NT is Eph 2:10. Believers were created to be witnesses to the world, created for good works. It is not even addressing Christ's redemptive work. It is addressing the purpose of...

All your texts in context is speaking of believers. However, in order for you and any Christian to have union with God, for God to purify a peculiar people Christ needed to redeem, reconcile, the world and mankind to God. Not only are you cutting Christ's redemption short, you are completely...

Unfortunately you don't understand the Biblical understanding of redemption. You seem to think that Christ created believers by His death/resurrection. To make a persons life a reality, one must accept the call of the Holy Spirit to belief, repentance, baptism and enter into union with Christ.

He hasn't said otherwise. It does not make much difference since he cannot show any evidence that Christians ever believed what he believes before the Reformation. I gave him historical rebuttal of what scripture has meant for 2000 years. I even narrowed it down to prior to the reformation. All...

Lots of strawmen in your explanation. Lots of texts out of context, and misinterpreted. But what could one expect from a man made theory. What sect/denomination supports this theory? It might make sense for the person who wrote this stuff but it is far from what scripture means and has been...