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You said: " I'm not making an "amazing statement." I'm stating what the Scriptures state, namely that Sin has caused and continues to cause all men to be subject to mortality, or death. We already have a Sin Nature, and thus are mortal and subject to death. But we continue to sin, having that...

You said: " I'm not making an "amazing statement." I'm stating what the Scriptures state, namely that Sin has caused and continues to cause all men to be subject to mortality, or death. We already have a Sin Nature, and thus are mortal and subject to death. But we continue to sin, having that...

Where have I ever stated that Christ's death doesn't save? You have provided no text(s) that stated that healed means conversion. Even a dictionary as a christian meaning does not define conversion as being healed. I explained what the Bible teaches and it clearly states that Christ in His...

Your reading comprehension is not good. I actually stated that Christ saved man twice. First by His resurrection from mortal, physical death and then believers will be saved from the second death which is a spiritual death, not a mortal death. The first resurrection for the believer is baptism...

I just have to agree to disagree. You have some different views of who Christ is and what He accomplished. I do have some questions though based on your view. Do you believe man was created mortal? I ask this because your view constantly separates different kinds of men, believers and...

You have a very disconnected explanation. You change the meaning of words to fit some prescribed view that is not present. You want all dead to only mean some dead. Your view leaves Christ not able to save to the utmost all that have died because of Adam. No place does this context separate...

Let's take it slow and easy so you might understand what scripture is actually saying. I Cor 15 vs13-14, if there is no resurrection of the dead then Christ is not risen. One would need to assume that you must of necessity believe that only some humans have died. But it clearly says all the...

Man was never judged sinners by God. God permitted Satan to condemn man to death. Dust to Dust, Gen 3:19. Heb 2:14-16. We sin because we are dead, fallen. Rom 5:12-19. The context is all about physical death as the result of the condemnation through Adam for his sin. I Cor 15:54-56 explains...

You are really confused. I have said nothing in support of universalism. You are confused about scriptures teaching on the work of Christ. You conflate Christ's work and man's response to God's call to believe, repent and be saved. I'll keep it simple for you. Just take I Cor 15, 12-22. How do...

This is where you are confused as to what scripture is teaching regarding Christ's work, which is wholly done by Christ and is effected on not just all men but the world, Mankind gets saved from death which is why and how we can even have a resurrection of the dead. God will raise all men in...

BTW the word healed, the greek word iaomai : You are correct, but your application does not apply to believers but to all men. You are dwelling on ONLY the secondary work of Christ on the Cross, that is the shedding of blood for the purpose forgiveness of sins. If Christ did not rise from...

There is no predestination in any of the comments I made. Do you believe that some men do not sin. That some men have not fallen as did Adam. If you actually believe what scripture states, then ALL MEN are fallen. All men were condemned to death through the curse upon Adam. If Christ is going...

The whole purpose of the Holy Spirit working in this world is to bring all men to repentance. He desires that all repent. But the actual act of believing is NOT done by God. It is done by each person. It is accepting His offer of salvation through faith. If God does it, man is not the active...

You are not using context to support your definitions. Redemption has nothing to do with believers in particular. Christ bought everything,. That is what Col 1:17-20 is stating emphatically. II Cor 5:18-19 is also making the same claim. The whole of I Cor 15: 12 -53, which is known as the...

You have a remarkable way to change words so it says what you want it to say, not what scripture is actually saying. Bringing to God is NOT conversion. Conversion is not even done by God. God calls all men to repentance II Pet 3:9, Man must choose to accept or decline that call. When one...

What is your definition of "redeemed"? There are many applications but the context always determines its meaning. Christ redeemed the world, not just believers. He made the world right. He did something man could not do, overcome death. There would be no "new heaven and new earth, there...

I Pet 3:18 Has nothing to do with God converting individuals. What it says is Christ died for the just and the unjust. That He might bring us to God. The US in that sentence is referring to the just and the unjust. I Pet 4:2 says that we should live to the will of God. Nothing says that God is...

the salvation through faith was made available. But salvation through faith would accomplish nothing if Christ had not first defeated death. Christ redeemed the whole world. Everything He created, He redeemed. The world fell along with Adam. Col 1:15-20 defines clearly what Christ accomplished...

Christ's death does not covert a single person. His death gave life, Immortality to the world. That is why scripture speaks of a resurrection of the dead. There will be a resurrection in the last day and all men will be raised to face judgement. Conversion is a choice a person makes through...