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    The Way/Theosis/entire sanctification.

    So do you prefer entire sanctification which is scriptural? And the very God of peace sanctify you wholly; and I pray God your whole spirit and soul and body be preserved blameless unto the coming of our Lord Jesus Christ. 1 Thess. 5:23
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    The Way/Theosis/entire sanctification.

    @Johann if you would like to make one or two points, I will consider answering, but not a whole wall as you have posted.
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    You use the term Trinity don't you. Found nowhere in the Bible.
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    The Way/Theosis/entire sanctification.

    The Bible says there is one baptism: Eph 4:4There is one body, and one Spirit, even as ye are called in one hope of your calling; 5One Lord, one faith, one baptism, 6One God and Father of all, who is above all, and through all, and in you all. As you say, as we lay our flesh on the altar, it...
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    The Way/Theosis/entire sanctification.

    I see it as the Baptism of the Holy Spirit saves us from sin. The disciples followed Jesus before that.
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    @Lizbeth It is when we have been illumined as to the extent of the evil in the old man that we will consent to his/her crucifixion. Death then life.
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    @Lizbeth Yes it's in the reckoning.
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    The Way/Theosis/entire sanctification.

    I also see carnal believers as opposed to the spiritual. Do you not agree? The carnal? Well this is true and I would not expect all elderly church members to display the fruit of the Spirit for this reason. But when there isn't ONE, which has been my observation, then I have to take stock...
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    I got it from Norman Russell who says it is a philosophical term used in both a weak sense and a strong sense in Orthodoxy. Yes but what exactly does it mean in practical terms. Also 'becoming' rather than 'be' will no doubt be disputed by theologians. Scripture says to put off and put on like...
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    The Way/Theosis/entire sanctification.

    @Lizbeth agreed but many terms need some explanation. Whereby are given unto us exceeding great and precious promises: that by these ye might be partakers of the divine nature, having escaped the corruption that is in the world through lust. 2 Peter 1:4. We all know this verse but what does it...
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    @marks I have just seen your edit. No I am not saying that. We have received everything we need, at the cross and all we need is to appropriate it. This is the reason why I said that understanding spiritual things is not easy to explain or understand.
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    I was not saying the last bit to you Mark. I did say all. I know that you are as interested as I am over deepening relationship with Christ. You seem to want to misinterpret me over everything I say now especially over accepting anything that is not in the Bible which I have explained I do not...
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    The Way/Theosis/entire sanctification.

    Surely, the most significant doctrine of Protestantism, is sola scriptura which I believe you hold to. It was after all, one of the main reason for the split from the Roman Catholics, as they were adding to scripture in regard to indulgences and other practices. We have diverted from the...
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    The Way/Theosis/entire sanctification.

    If your believing is in what is true then it will align with the explanations in Scripture. Sorry belief not believe. What is meant, I believe, is that it is about the heart. The heart that is foolish above all things. If the heart is not right with God, then any amount of explanations will...
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    I think the point was that God spoke a second time, not on their actions specifically.
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    I was not denying that He will physically return. Both. The apostles could not be wrong in thinking that it was going to be in their lifetime (physically). I don't see how it could be used by the Lord to warn believers, if they were not believers. What would be the point? It is taking the...
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    The Way/Theosis/entire sanctification.

    Good post on this from Lizbeth on epis thread: "Here I will just lay this out for your or anyone's consideration - don't mean to push it on anyone: Gen 22:15-17 And the angel of the LORD called unto Abraham out of heaven the second time, (don’t think the wording is accidental) And said, By...
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    Edit in previous post
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    The Way/Theosis/entire sanctification.

    Jesus will return again, but this is not what the scripture teaches about a second coming. And I will pray the Father, and he shall give you another Comforter, that he may abide with you for ever; Even the Spirit of truth; whom the world cannot receive, because it seeth him not, neither knoweth...