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  1. Stumpmaster

    What or who is the 8th king?

    Assyria is included in the beast powers that have troubled God's People: 2Ki 18:13-16 And in the fourteenth year of King Hezekiah, Sennacherib king of Assyria came up against all the fortified cities of Judah and took them. (14) Then Hezekiah king of Judah sent to the king of Assyria at...
  2. Stumpmaster

    What or who is the 8th king?

    Visions are symbolic, fullstop, (period, if you're American). The term "body of Christ" is symbolic. It describes the collective nature and activity of those under the Headship of Christ. Likewise the beast from the sea is symbolic of the cumulative energies and efforts of wicked, unregenerate...
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    What or who is the 8th king?

    Symbolism that has no application in reality is pointless. Either we believe the written Word of God or we don't. My experience is that natural and supernatural reality overlap, and Scripture reveals this from the first word of Genesis to the last word of Revelation. Some folk don't do too...
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    The Myth of saying that Jesus Christ died for all men without exception !

    Hi theefaith, Faith is the conduit through which grace flows from God, and the corridor through which access to God's grace is gained, as per these references: Eph 2:8-10 For by grace you have been saved through faith, and that not of yourselves; it is the gift of God, (9) not of works...
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    What or who is the 8th king?

    Hi Waiting on him. Your username is ironic since you give no answer yourself, but here it is for both you an old Marty. Context is everything. There is nothing false about the context of this verse which shows Christ having returned before the beast and the kings of the earth and their armies...
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    The Myth of saying that Jesus Christ died for all men without exception !

    It couldn't be simpler. God's Grace is sufficient for all to be saved but only efficient for those who respond to it.
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    What or who is the 8th king?

    The metaphor of the beast is intended to describe the inevitable state of affairs that God foreknows will reach a climax. No climax of wickedness on earth = no second coming, but wickedness is escalating so the second coming is pending.
  8. Stumpmaster

    The Myth of saying that Jesus Christ died for all men without exception !

    Hi brightfame52. I haven't read all the posts but I think the discussion is about the difference between God's "sufficient grace" and His "efficient grace". Although the suffering and sacrifice by Christ on the Cross quarantees God's Grace is "sufficient" to cover the sins of the entire world...
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    God changed Seventh Day Sabbath Worship to First Day of the Week

    Hullo post. There is an analogy between the congregation in the wilderness being doubly provided for and gathering twice as much manna on the day before the Sabbath when work was prohibited. By example we will be wise stewards of what God provides, being diligent to rest in Christ, knowing...
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    What or who is the 8th king?

    Yes. The seven main peaks of wickedness which have extended over the centuries can be seen as the base of the one final peak that builds on the others and extends for a fraction of that time. I believe the final rise of the wickedness of unregenerate humanity reaches a terminal zenith with a...
  11. Stumpmaster

    What or who is the 8th king?

    !00% True. Now metaphorical Babylon is global.
  12. Stumpmaster

    What or who is the 8th king?

    Hullo Truth7t7, I prefer a wider application, as per my notes herewith.
  13. Stumpmaster

    What or who is the 8th king?

    Hullo Rechoired. I suggest you brush up on your OT history. Assyria figures prominently in between Egypt and Babylon. Prophesied: (about 742BC) Isa 7:17 The LORD will bring the king of Assyria upon you and your people and your father's house—days that have not come since the day that...
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    What or who is the 8th king?

    Hullo Marty. It's called personification. Israel is both he and she at times.
  15. Stumpmaster

    What or who is the 8th king?

    MIssing Assyria.
  16. Stumpmaster

    What or who is the 8th king?

    According to the Book of Revelation, the Fall of Babylon will be in evidence as a result of its termination by the TEN CROWNED HORNS of the BEAST from the SEA, which is still around, manifesting in part through the ideologies of Papal Rome, and working towards Global Governance that is a...
  17. Stumpmaster

    Watching History Repeat Itself

    Hi Ziggy, There is a area of study that identifies templates. Templates are found in nature, whether biology, zoology, chemistry, physics, astronomy, mathematics etc, and are of course applied in engineering and production. Efforts to achieve economic and environmental control are largely...
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    Men of science were originally men of God

    Good work, Curtis. Yes, I have encountered all sorts of false teachings from antiquity, and from ecclesiastical sources, including spontaneous generation, supposedly being supported by Scripture. (e.g.Gen 1:11 Then God said, "Let the earth bring forth grass, the herb that yields seed, and the...
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    Watching History Repeat Itself

    Obviously any graven image made for the purpose of worship is an abomination. Exo 20:3-6 "You shall have no other gods before Me. (4) "You shall not make for yourself a carved image—any likeness of anything that is in heaven above, or that is in the earth beneath, or that is in the water...