Hullo Marty. It's called personification. Israel is both he and she at times.
Yes but it says will only last a little while
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Hullo Marty. It's called personification. Israel is both he and she at times.
You can believe that but it is incorrect. The intensity of the constructs are a sign they are different.
While they do have a similarity that superficially could lead one to conclude they are th esame, a deeper study (especially the linguistics used by God) shows that the seals and the events of Matt. 24 are different.
Teh six seals are pretribulation events, but not the events of Matt. 24.
!00% True. Now metaphorical Babylon is global.did lots of nice work! but Israel or jerusalem cannot be Mystery Babylon teh great, the mother of all harlots and abominations on earth!
Why?
Because Judaism did not bring forth all the pagan worship systems throughout history. Those were all born from the original Babylon with Nimrod and semiramis. It was here that all abominations were born!
Yes. The seven main peaks of wickedness which have extended over the centuries can be seen as the base of the one final peak that builds on the others and extends for a fraction of that time. I believe the final rise of the wickedness of unregenerate humanity reaches a terminal zenith with a global infrastructure that is effectively a satanic administration under the ultimate false prophet who is endued with supernatural powers. It is for a short while in contrast to what has taken place over the centuries of tyranny.Yes but it says will only last a little while
Daniel's (Little Horn)
"No" Antiochus Epiphanies 167BC (Didnt) fulfill Daniel's (Little Horn) as seen in Daniel 7:8-11 below
This "Future" figure will be present on earth to see the (Second Coming) of Jesus Christ and final judgement, as this figure will be slain by Jesus Christ and cast into the lake of fire (Future) unfulfilled
"Future" (Second Coming, Final Judgement) Below
Daniel 7:8-11KJV
8 I considered the horns, and, behold, there came up among them another little horn, before whom there were three of the first horns plucked up by the roots: and, behold, in this horn were eyes like the eyes of man, and a mouth speaking great things.
9 I beheld till the thrones were cast down, and the Ancient of days did sit, whose garment was white as snow, and the hair of his head like the pure wool: his throne was like the fiery flame, and his wheels as burning fire.
10 A fiery stream issued and came forth from before him: thousand thousands ministered unto him, and ten thousand times ten thousand stood before him: the judgment was set, and the books were opened.
11 I beheld then because of the voice of the great words which the horn spake: I beheld even till the beast was slain, and his body destroyed, and given to the burning flame.
This "Future" figure will be present on earth making (Abomination & Desolation) to the (Consummation) or (The Ultimate End) A "Future" Event(s) Unfulfilled
Merriam-Webster
Definition of consummation
1: the act of consummating the consummation of a contract by mutual signature specifically : the consummating of a marriage
2: the ultimate end
Daniel 9:27KJV
27 And he shall confirm the covenant with many for one week: and in the midst of the week he shall cause the sacrifice and the oblation to cease, and for the overspreading of abominations he shall make it desolate, even until the consummation, and that determined shall be poured upon the desolate.
The metaphor of the beast is intended to describe the inevitable state of affairs that God foreknows will reach a climax. No climax of wickedness on earth = no second coming, but wickedness is escalating so the second coming is pending.If know one knows when Jesus will come back then how come the beast is waiting for Him with the false prophet and his armies?
Revelation 19 isn’t a literal battle
I would say it is not a battle, but is the last of humanity to physically die. I suppose those are not literal birds that eat the literal flesh of dead bodies?If know one knows when Jesus will come back then how come the beast is waiting for Him with the false prophet and his armies?
Revelation 19 isn’t a literal battle
That seen below, is the (Second Coming) of Jesus Christ, that results in the end of this world, all in "Parallel Teachings" of the same future event.If know one knows when Jesus will come back then how come the beast is waiting for Him with the false prophet and his armies?
Revelation 19 isn’t a literal battle
How can the 6 seals be pretribulation events
!00% True. Now metaphorical Babylon is global.
No place in scripture is a (7 Year) tribulation foundBecause the Day of the Lord when not used with specific modifiers, always refer to teh 7 year tribulation.
1.We know the antichrist signs a 7 year covenant with Israel.
2. He has to be in a position of political and military power in order to make it strong as Daniel says.
3. Matt. 24 tells us world wars, and devastation on earth happen as the beginning of labor
4. the natural outcome of antichrist going ot war is death, famine and pestilence. we are already beginning ot see these now!
5. After the sixth seal is opened the kings of the earth make a cry:
REV> 6:
12 And I beheld when he had opened the sixth seal, and, lo, there was a great earthquake; and the sun became black as sackcloth of hair, and the moon became as blood;
13 And the stars of heaven fell unto the earth, even as a fig tree casteth her untimely figs, when she is shaken of a mighty wind.
14 And the heaven departed as a scroll when it is rolled together; and every mountain and island were moved out of their places.
15 And the kings of the earth, and the great men, and the rich men, and the chief captains, and the mighty men, and every bondman, and every free man, hid themselves in the dens and in the rocks of the mountains;
16 And said to the mountains and rocks, Fall on us, and hide us from the face of him that sitteth on the throne, and from the wrath of the Lamb:
17 For the great day of his wrath is come; and who shall be able to stand?
They declare the day of the Lords wrath has arrived! These events also fulfill Joel :
Joel 2:31
The sun shall be turned into darkness, and the moon into blood, before the great and terrible day of the Lord come.
God said the sun and moon BEFORE not during the Day of the Lord.
all these events fit with the rise of the antoichrist to be able to make a covenant and enforce it, and the seals occurring before th e Trib happens. Another stron implication is that with the opening of the seals we see events on earth alone, but with the trumpets and bowls we see these being poured out directly from heaven.
No place in scripture is a (7 Year) tribulation found
The bible teaches of a 1260 day or 42 month tribulation, that will see the future (Two Witnesses) and (Antichrist) present for the very same 3.5 year tribulation
That seen below, is the (Second Coming) of Jesus Christ, that results in the end of this world, all in "Parallel Teachings" of the same future event.
Revelation 16:12-17KJV
12 And the sixth angel poured out his vial upon the great river Euphrates; and the water thereof was dried up, that the way of the kings of the east might be prepared.
13 And I saw three unclean spirits like frogs come out of the mouth of the dragon, and out of the mouth of the beast, and out of the mouth of the false prophet.
14 For they are the spirits of devils, working miracles, which go forth unto the kings of the earth and of the whole world, to gather them to the battle of that great day of God Almighty.
15 Behold, I come as a thief. Blessed is he that watcheth, and keepeth his garments, lest he walk naked, and they see his shame.
16 And he gathered them together into a place called in the Hebrew tongue Armageddon.
17 And the seventh angel poured out his vial into the air; and there came a great voice out of the temple of heaven, from the throne, saying, It is done.
Revelation 19:19-21KJV
19 And I saw the beast, and the kings of the earth, and their armies, gathered together to make war against him that sat on the horse, and against his army.
20 And the beast was taken, and with him the false prophet that wrought miracles before him, with which he deceived them that had received the mark of the beast, and them that worshipped his image. These both were cast alive into a lake of fire burning with brimstone.
21 And the remnant were slain with the sword of him that sat upon the horse, which sword proceeded out of his mouth: and all the fowls were filled with their flesh.
Revelation 20:7-9KJV
7 And when the thousand years are expired, Satan shall be loosed out of his prison,
8 And shall go out to deceive the nations which are in the four quarters of the earth, Gog, and Magog, to gather them together to battle: the number of whom is as the sand of the sea.
9 And they went up on the breadth of the earth, and compassed the camp of the saints about, and the beloved city: and fire came down from God out of heaven, and devoured them.
No Such Thing As (Weeks Of Years) Found In Daniel 9:24-27, Let Alone A 70th Week, With A 2,000 Year Gap And Waiting.The tribulation is the 7 year eign of Antichrist it is the 70th week of Daniel.
Teh great ribulation is the last 3 1/2 years when the antichrists' rises from the dead, enters the holy place and sits on the mercy seat and dewclares himself god.
The Lord Will Destroy Literal Humans, Upon A Literal Earth, The Question Has Been Answered.But that didn't answer the question
No Such Thing As (Weeks Of Years) Found In Daniel 9:24-27, Let Alone A 70th Week, With A 2,000 Year Gap And Waiting.
Daniel 9:24-27, Seventy Literal Weeks Explained?
Daniel's 70 weeks are literal 7 day periods, or 490 literal days.
If Daniel meant 490 years he would have written
(Four Hundred Ninety Years)
Daniel had no restrictions in "Writing" exact numerology as seen below.
Daniel 6:1KJV
It pleased Darius to set over the kingdom an hundred and twenty princes, which should be over the whole kingdom;
Daniel 8:14KJV
And he said unto me, Unto two thousand and three hundred days; then shall the sanctuary be cleansed.
Daniel 12:11KJV
And from the time that the daily sacrifice shall be taken away, and the abomination that maketh desolate set up, there shall be a thousand two hundred and ninety days.
Below in Daniel 10:2-3 we see just another example of Daniel's literal weeks, as Daniel mourned and fasted for 3 literal weeks or 21 days.
Daniel 10:2-3KJV
2 In those days I Daniel was mourning three full weeks.
3 I ate no pleasant bread, neither came flesh nor wine in my mouth, neither did I anoint myself at all, till three whole weeks were fulfilled.
Below in Daniel 9:24-27 we see 70 literal future weeks or 490 days.
When the call/commandment goes out in Jerusalem to build unto the Jewish Meshiach/Messiah that they wait for (They Denied Jesus Christ) this will start the 7 week period.
62 literal weeks will be in building, and Meshiach/Messiah will be cut off by the Antichrist who stops the building.
The 70th literal week will see the antichrist revealed in making a covenant, and in the middle of this literal week he proclaims to be Meshiach/Messiah God to the Jews, and Jesus returned to the apostate church, to start a Millennium on earth.
The 3.5 year tribulation starts at this time.
Daniel 9:24-27KJV
24 Seventy weeks are determined upon thy people and upon thy holy city, to finish the transgression, and to make an end of sins, and to make reconciliation for iniquity, and to bring in everlasting righteousness, and to seal up the vision and prophecy, and to anoint the most Holy.
25 Know therefore and understand, that from the going forth of the commandment to restore and to build Jerusalem unto the Messiah the Prince shall be seven weeks, and threescore and two weeks: the street shall be built again, and the wall, even in troublous times.
26 And after threescore and two weeks shall Messiah be cut off, but not for himself: and the people of the prince that shall come shall destroy the city and the sanctuary; and the end thereof shall be with a flood, and unto the end of the war desolations are determined.
27 And he shall confirm the covenant with many for one week: and in the midst of the week he shall cause the sacrifice and the oblation to cease, and for the overspreading of abominations he shall make it desolate, even until the consummation, and that determined shall be poured upon the desolate.
Yes We Will DisagreeHistory has proven that the seventy sevens are years! If you can't accpet that empirical and unarguable fact- there is no point continuing this discussion.
(Jerusalem) Is The Whore, Mystery Babylon The Great Of Revelation Chapter 17If believers only realized how vast and large the growth of the ancinet Babylonian mysteries religions has been happening in modern days! Of course they have new practices and are not sacrificn people and animals, but the mystery religions of ancient Babylon are alive and well and thriving on planet earth. And for some hard core folks, Romanism is not it! Apostate catholics as well as apostate protestants will become part of the world superchurch (as they call it) but every sect has their own problems without tagging any of them as Babylon the Great.
Yes We Will Disagree
If Daniel Intended (Seventy Weeks) to represent (Four Hundred Ninety Years) He Would Have Written It That Way, No Guess Work Involved, Simple, Clear, And Easy To Understand.
Daniel 9:24-27, Seventy Literal Weeks Explained?
Daniel's 70 weeks are literal 7 day periods, or 490 literal days.
If Daniel meant 490 years he would have written
(Four Hundred Ninety Years)
Daniel had no restrictions in "Writing" exact numerology as seen below.
Daniel 6:1KJV
It pleased Darius to set over the kingdom an hundred and twenty princes, which should be over the whole kingdom;
Daniel 8:14KJV
And he said unto me, Unto two thousand and three hundred days; then shall the sanctuary be cleansed.
Daniel 12:11KJV
And from the time that the daily sacrifice shall be taken away, and the abomination that maketh desolate set up, there shall be a thousand two hundred and ninety days.
Below in Daniel 10:2-3 we see just another example of Daniel's literal weeks, as Daniel mourned and fasted for 3 literal weeks or 21 days.
Daniel 10:2-3KJV
2 In those days I Daniel was mourning three full weeks.
3 I ate no pleasant bread, neither came flesh nor wine in my mouth, neither did I anoint myself at all, till three whole weeks were fulfilled.
Below in Daniel 9:24-27 we see 70 literal future weeks or 490 days.
When the call/commandment goes out in Jerusalem to build unto the Jewish Meshiach/Messiah that they wait for (They Denied Jesus Christ) this will start the 7 week period.
62 literal weeks will be in building, and Meshiach/Messiah will be cut off by the Antichrist who stops the building.
The 70th literal week will see the antichrist revealed in making a covenant, and in the middle of this literal week he proclaims to be Meshiach/Messiah God to the Jews, and Jesus returned to the apostate church, to start a Millennium on earth.
The 3.5 year tribulation starts at this time.
Daniel 9:24-27KJV
24 Seventy weeks are determined upon thy people and upon thy holy city, to finish the transgression, and to make an end of sins, and to make reconciliation for iniquity, and to bring in everlasting righteousness, and to seal up the vision and prophecy, and to anoint the most Holy.
25 Know therefore and understand, that from the going forth of the commandment to restore and to build Jerusalem unto the Messiah the Prince shall be seven weeks, and threescore and two weeks: the street shall be built again, and the wall, even in troublous times.
26 And after threescore and two weeks shall Messiah be cut off, but not for himself: and the people of the prince that shall come shall destroy the city and the sanctuary; and the end thereof shall be with a flood, and unto the end of the war desolations are determined.
27 And he shall confirm the covenant with many for one week: and in the midst of the week he shall cause the sacrifice and the oblation to cease, and for the overspreading of abominations he shall make it desolate, even until the consummation, and that determined shall be poured upon the desolate.
Yes the bible speaks for itself, if it was (Four Hundred Ninety Years) it wouldn't be written as (Seventy Weeks) a no brainerYour biggest error is that you interpret sabua as wekks, when it means a seven. In its context Daniel said 70 7's are determined
As you see it could mean days, years, a period of 7 (see sabua is simply a derivative of shevah or 7 in Hebrew) So it is an undefined time frame in this passage. History showed us it was 70(7) or 490 years.
- seven, period of seven (days or years), heptad, week
- period of seven days, a week
- Feast of Weeks
- heptad, seven (of years)
Context and history give us the value of the sabua whether it be days, weeks, years or a period of seven like the feast of weeks. Let the Bi9ble speak for itself instead of making up stuff.