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I'd say so. The Christian RELIGION is very logical. (I differentiate between our religion and our faith/relationship with God.)

Yes. You DID cover this and I've replied to it. I believe we can commit any sin that we allow ourselves to commit. Even one of the 10 commandments. For instance, adultery is unto death per Jesus Himself. And yet if we allow ourselves, even that can be committed by a Christain person. Can't...

I agree with all of the above including the mistakes Luther made by over-compensating what the CC was doing at the time and creating the faith alone teaching which is nowhere to be found in scripture. I, and most theologians, agree that there is a sin that leads to death...the CC calls it...

YOU used the word EARN. I was just repeating it. Of course we cannot earn our salvtion. You said: "No. because my faith can not earn me salvation" Right. It is THROUGH faith. Galatians 2:16 16Yet we know that a person is not justified by works of the law but through faith in Jesus Christ...

Riven They shouldn't be in flux. They've been the same for 2 thousand years. THIS is precisely why they cannot be changed. It would mean that there are no rules! What did you think of my list of tenets? It's not MY list, it's what the Christian religion considers necessary for the faith.

But faith DOES earn you salvation. It is by faith ... Eph 2:8 Through faith means it is the method... a means is a method. later...

Yes sir. We agree. Nothing much more left to be said. You've said it all.

I think I agree.

Yes. It's much deeper than that. So if everyone has God's grace, we cannot say that it's grace that saves. Isn't it more correct to say that faith saves? We were discussing this.

Agreed. We speak of a different gospel. What could be more different than believing that Jesus is just a man/prophet,,, whatever they believe - I'm not even sure what they believe. Jesus said He and the Father are one. He said before Abraham was I AM. I AM means forever...before, during and...

Yes sir. But which do you like better?

Don't you think God's grace is just simply God's love for His creation? I read a whole book on grace many years ago but, basically, it boiled down to this. It's not that we need God's grace to be saved... we have God's grace anyway.

Note your number 5 above. It says that there is ONE faith. Did the Apostles believe that Jesus is God? So is there one faith or two? One that believes Jesus was just a man...making Christianity idolatrous... and another faith that teaches that Jesus was God...making Jesus trustworthy to be...

Hi EG I kind of like my avatar with the little kids. What do you think??

Do you believe Jesus and Paul have different teachings?

Hey Peter.... I've got plenty of verses. Here are some. From Paul: Colossians 1:21-23 21And although you were formerly alienated and hostile in mind, engaged in evil deeds, 22yet He has now reconciled you in His fleshly body through death, in order to present you before Him holy and...

I posted the chart to show that man is made of 3 materials: body, Soul, Spirit The spirit comes from God. It is our attachment to God. The unsaved do not have a spirit but only body and soul. What I asked is this: IF the sin nature is eliminated at salvation.... and it is the sin nature that...

Steve, I read your posts and it's like I'm reading myself. We agree totally on everything except you have much more skill in stating what we both believe to be true. My parents immigrated to NYC and it was their desire to try to fit in...not to try to make American Italian. With some cultures...

You don't have to be Christian to be saved. You have to believe in the Christian tenets to be defined as Christian. It's not the forum admin that makes this rule. The Christian RELIGION makes this rule. If you define yourself as Jewish you must have a set standard of beliefs. If you define...

I had a thread on what defines a Christian about a year ago. It was very long and some did not even understand what the point was. I don't know what you believe, but I'll tell you this. If you do not believe the Trinity, you should not consider yourself a Christian. The Christian RELIGION...