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Of course, that is where the flesh goes in judgment. Do you believe God sets the spirit of man (God's own breath and image, called the candle of Lord) on fire for all eternity?

I have, many times. Thanks for the suggestion, though.

LOL...of course I am. I'm not actually interested in "Christian doctrine" though, at least not in the sense that I think you're using the term, nor am I trying to prove a particular doctrine (there are probably as many varied doctrines on a particular subject as denominations), but rather I'm...

Yes, however the command is to the spirit, not the flesh. The natural man does not and cannot receive the things of the Spirit, of which the Gospel is. 1Co 2:14 But the natural man receiveth not the things of the Spirit of God: for they are foolishness unto him: neither can he know them...

If what you mean by "hell" is actually "sheol", or "hades", the "grave", or "gehenna", then yes, all souls according to the flesh (that is: the natural/carnal/old man that was crucified with Christ, Rom 6:6) go to "hell". And that is what scripture tells us, here: Job 34:15 All flesh shall...

I think we do know who the elect are. All things, including all souls, were created in Christ (Col 1:16). As such, all souls are owned by God. God calls them "mine" (Eze 18:4). Further, all live move and have their being in Him (Act 17:28). And still further, all souls are called the...

The first example you gave. God acted decisively (or will act) on both counts of unbelief, with mercy: Rom 11:30 For as ye in times past have not believed God, yet have now obtained mercy through their unbelief: Rom 11:31 Even so have these also now not believed, that through your mercy they...

It's more than that, actually. The Gospel is a proclamation of good news, a heralding of such. It's a proclamation to the world, to all souls therein, that Christ has died for your sins, was buried and was resurrected by God for it's attestation. However, not everyone hears the proclamation...

No problem, thanks for your time though.

I would agree that God is not bound by time. But I don't see how this is relevant to our discussion of the texts at hand. Perhaps we'll just agree to disagree on the meaning of the texts.

There is really too much to unpack here or respond to. This is better suited for a UR thread in the unorthodox theology department. So I won't do it here.

I'm simply reading the text as it's been stated/written by Jesus and John. It states unequivocally that the unbeliever has been judged already (past tense) and will not see life (future tense). Both are statements of fact. There is no getting around this, unless of course you do not believe...

I would agree that the extent of God's mercy is "to all". That is clearly defined in the text. And the only condition for God's mercy is to have been concluded in unbelief, as odd as that may sound, which is clearly stated in the proceeding clause. And then Paul summarizes this amazing text...

But this answer doesn't really answer the text.

That's really not the force of the clause though. It's not the availability of Mercy that's in question or being answered, but rather what God does, or will do (ie: Gk voice: active) to those He's concluded (lit: shut together) in unbelief.

Ask yourself: Was there ever a time when you did not believe the Gospel? We could also use Paul as an example here too. Paul, when these words were spoken, was an unbeliever (aka: Saul). And the text's you've given specifically state the following, concerning Paul, and all like him: Joh...

I think "will show mercy" is really the better translation for the purpose clause. Although the verb is in the subjunctive mood, potentiality or possibility of God showing mercy to all is really not being called into question. The emphasis of the clause is to answer the question as to why God...

LOL...wonderful post!

That the OT language of the text is typological, having an allegorical interpretation (or understanding) in the NT. You're perhaps thinking of the phrase "spiritual language" with reference to speaking in tongues. I wasn't using it in that sense. Here is an example that Paul gives...

The language of: "Jacob have I loved, but Esau have I hated" (Rom 9:13) is allegorical and spiritual. It's speaking of spirit (Jacob) vs. flesh (Esau). And it's allegory is true for all of us. The same can be said regarding Cain (flesh) vs. Abel (spirit), Ishmael (flesh) vs. Isaac (spirit)...