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    The Atonement: What did it REALLY Accomplish?

    Yes, God does love the entire human race, however, He does not love us according to our flesh, but rather spirit. There is nothing good in the flesh to be loved (Rom 7:18) The flesh profits nothing (Joh 6:63) The flesh is death (Rom 8:6) Etc., etc. Simply do a word study of the terms...
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    The Atonement: What did it REALLY Accomplish?

    Nowhere does scripture limit reconciliation to only an "elect world". Here are the scriptures regarding the reconciliation that Christ achieved using the terms "world" and "all things", by God in Christ to Himself: Col 1:20 and through him to reconcile to himself all things, whether on earth...
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    The Atonement: What did it REALLY Accomplish?

    LOL... Mat 19:25 When the disciples heard this they were greatly astonished, saying, "Who then can be saved?" Mat 19:26 But Jesus looked at them and said to them, "With men this is impossible, but with God all things are possible." It's hard to believe I'm on a "Christian" forum....
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    The Atonement: What did it REALLY Accomplish?

    The atoning death of Christ is the Gospel: 1Co 15:1 Now I would remind you, brethren, in what terms I preached to you the gospel, which you received, in which you stand, 1Co 15:3 For I delivered to you as of first importance what I also received, that Christ died for our sins in accordance...
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    The Atonement: What did it REALLY Accomplish?

    Who said Judas "was in heaven"? I specifically gave scriptures that testify where Judas is. Pertaining to both his flesh and spirit.
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    The Atonement: What did it REALLY Accomplish?

    Please excuse my previous post, I'm new here and learning the "reply" methods. But yes, that was the scripture I was also referencing. Judas was the son of perdition, called "lost" by Jesus. And that is specifically for whom Christ died. "To seek and to save the lost" (Luk 19:10)
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    The Atonement: What did it REALLY Accomplish?

    Yes, it's about Judas. That's the scripture I also quoted in post #83 for context.
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    The Atonement: What did it REALLY Accomplish?

    The phrase "his own place" is the earth from which all are formed (Gen 2:7) Job 34:15 all flesh would perish together, and man would return to dust. Ecc 3:20 All go to one place; all are from the dust, and all turn to dust again. Ecc 12:5 they are afraid also of what is high, and terrors...
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    The Atonement: What did it REALLY Accomplish?

    Yes, He did. Jesus was sent to save lost souls, of which Judas was. Joh 17:12 While I was with them, I kept them in thy name, which thou hast given me; I have guarded them, and none of them is lost but the son of perdition, that the scripture might be fulfilled. However, Judas will be saved...
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    The Atonement: What did it REALLY Accomplish?

    John Calvin never got it right, either. He was a follower of Augustine. The revelation that pertains to God's will (that is: to unite all things in Christ in the fullness of times) was not revealed to Calvin or Augustine, or for that matter Arminius and all their followers. Thank-you Jesus...
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    The Atonement: What did it REALLY Accomplish?

    That's the Augustinian retort. He was wrong then, it was also wrong when Calvin repeated it and it's still wrong today.
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    The Atonement: What did it REALLY Accomplish?

    All things are in Christ. Col 1:16 for in him all things were created, in heaven and on earth, visible and invisible, whether thrones or dominions or principalities or authorities--all things were created through him and for him. Col 1:17 He is before all things, and in him all things hold...
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    The Atonement: What did it REALLY Accomplish?

    I'm simply giving you scripture. That's all I've done and that should have been obvious. As for placing me on ignore, thank-you.
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    The Atonement: What did it REALLY Accomplish?

    John 3:16 is the world, the world of all souls. Joh 1:9 The true light that enlightens every man was coming into the world. Joh 1:10 He was in the world, and the world was made through him, yet the world knew him not. Joh 1:29 The next day he saw Jesus coming toward him, and said, "Behold...
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    The Atonement: What did it REALLY Accomplish?

    Christ did not die to save our flesh (the natural and carnal man). You've got it wrong.
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    The Atonement: What did it REALLY Accomplish?

    Jesus is speaking to the soul according to their flesh, not their spirit: Joh 8:21 Again he said to them, "I go away, and you will seek me and die in your sin; where I am going, you cannot come." 1Co 15:50 I tell you this, brethren: flesh and blood cannot inherit the kingdom of God, nor does...
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    The Atonement: What did it REALLY Accomplish?

    Wonderful scriptures, all of them. However, they refer to the soul according to the spirit, ie: the breath and image of God. Not the carnal nature of the flesh. The flesh was reprobated and crucified in/with Christ on the cross so that we are no longer debtors to the flesh but rather the spirit.
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    The Atonement: What did it REALLY Accomplish?

    That's not what it means. Age and ethnicity have nothing to do with flesh and spirit.
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    The Atonement: What did it REALLY Accomplish?

    All things are in Christ and as such were/are elect according to the spirit (for which Christ died) and were/are reprobated as "unbelievers" according to the flesh.