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    The Atonement: What did it REALLY Accomplish?

    I already explained, cant help you cant follow. But fruit represents spiritual life, converts, Christs spiritual children. Again fruit is defined as the fruit of one's loins, i.e. his progeny, his posterity This fruit [posterity] serves Him Ps 22:30 30 A seed shall serve him; it shall be...
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    Was Adam Imparted Free Will From The Beginning Of Creation?

    Again, mans will is never free from Gods sovereign purpose, everything works according to His purpose, even the wills of men and devils Eph 1:11 11 In whom also we have obtained an inheritance, being predestinated according to the purpose of him who worketh all things[mens will included] after...
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    Is believing/faith a work ?

    Is Faith/believing a work ? Yes, but in its proper context its a work done through grace,the grace of the Spirit following new birth or new creation. Its written Eph 2:10 10 For we are his workmanship, created in Christ Jesus unto good works, which God hath before ordained that we should walk...
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    Was Adam Imparted Free Will From The Beginning Of Creation?

    Mans will never is or has been free from the Sovereign Purpose of God. Whatever God has purposed, the wills of men will conform unto the accomplishment of His Purpose. That started with Adam
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    The Atonement: What did it REALLY Accomplish?

    Fruit is the seed that serves Him, His Offspring Ps 22:30 A seed shall serve him; it shall be accounted to the Lord for a generation. Thats conversion, obedience and worship. This is the fruit of His death.
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    The Atonement: What did it REALLY Accomplish?

    Okay and from Christs death comes fruit. What do you think the fruit is ?
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    The Atonement: What did it REALLY Accomplish?

    Okay good, referring to Himself. Now what does " if it die " refer to ?
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    The Atonement: What did it REALLY Accomplish?

    In Jn 12:24 24 Verily, verily, I say unto you, Except a corn of wheat fall into the ground and die, it abideth alone: but if it die, it bringeth forth much fruit. Who do you believe Christ means by the corn of wheat that fall into the ground and die ?
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    The Atonement: What did it REALLY Accomplish?

    Im using scripture to explain my point, a point which you deny, and that is, that conversion, salvation is the result , effect of the Death of Jesus Christ, and again you oppose that, thats not good !
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    Is believing/faith a work ?

    If our believing/faith is inherent, then its our work, our action to believe in God/Jesus Christ for all Salvation, but if its not naturally inherent, and it be the work and operation of the Spirit of God in us, also the effectual working of Gods grace, then its not of ourselves, but the Gift of...
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    The Atonement: What did it REALLY Accomplish?

    Again those verses affirm that Christs death produce's Fruit, that fruit are His Seed Jn 12:24 Verily, verily, I say unto you, Except a corn of wheat fall into the ground and die, it abideth alone: but if it die, it bringeth forth much fruit. The word fruit means: fruit the fruit of the...
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    The Atonement: What did it REALLY Accomplish?

    So those verses affirm that Christs death produces life, conversion. All Men is restricted to the converted since Christs death produces conversion, the people who are never converted, Christ didnt die for them.
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    The Atonement: What did it REALLY Accomplish?

    Oh Yes Believers in Christ are the byproduct of His death, the fruit of His death Jn 12:24 Verily, verily, I say unto you, Except a corn of wheat fall into the ground and die, it abideth alone: but if it die, it bringeth forth much fruit. And John 12:32-33 32 And I, if I be lifted up from the...
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    The Atonement: What did it REALLY Accomplish?

    Oh no, you being an adversary to truth which you pawn off as just my theory.
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    The Atonement: What did it REALLY Accomplish?

    The all in Rom 5:18 are the same many in Rom 5:19, so the ones Christ died for, which consisteth of His obedience unto death, are Justified unto life and will be made experientially righteous by the new birth.
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    The Atonement: What did it REALLY Accomplish?

    I have explained my view the way Im led to explain it, not what you want me to explain. Explain your own view if you want it explained., My labor here isnt for you ! Just know, up to this point you have been an adversary to the Truth
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    The Atonement: What did it REALLY Accomplish?

    Made Righteous by His Faithfulness/Obedience ! All those that the Jesus Christ I know and serve, all for whom He died, in His obedience, and because He represented them [those He died for] by that obedience of His, which is also His Faithfulness to that Eternal Covenant which He became the...
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    The Atonement: What did it REALLY Accomplish?

    I've used more than a couple of text, have you read from the OP all my posts explaining this sacred truth. Your problem is you dont receive the Truth of the saving death of Christ.
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    The Atonement: What did it REALLY Accomplish?

    I dont have to explain your text. I explain using my own text..
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    The Atonement: What did it REALLY Accomplish?

    I have explained my view. I just havent used your criteria as the foundation of my explaining my view, that you cant dictate to me. However you are being an adversary to the truth that Christs death accomplished and effects Salvation for all whom He died, Gods Elect