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Many have objected to the reality that Faith/Believing is a work because they read in scripture where faith is contrasted to works like Eph 2:8-9 8 For by grace are ye saved through faith; and that not of yourselves: it is the gift of God: 9 Not of works, lest any man should boast. Rom 4:5...

On this thread its devoted to show how and why Christs death accomplished Salvation for them Christ died for, His death causes all of their Salvation, legal, Spiritual, and Eternal Glory ! And you deny it, thats being an adversary to the Truth friend.

The Truth needs repeating, you keep resisting it. It cant be denied, Christs death causes and effects Salvation. Now if one doesnt become a believer and live by faith, they were not someone Christ died for.

Again, you are resisting the Truth, Christs death accomplished Salvation and effects it for all whom He died, the elect, the saved. If a person is never saved, converted to God and Christ so to serve them, then Christ did not die for them.

Once again you are being a adversary to the accomplishment of Christ death. All who died with Him will be made to live unto Him who died for them. Thats only the saved, He didn't die for the eternally lost.

The scripture confirms what I am testifying to in regards to the saving death of Christ. Those He died for in 2 Cor 5:14 died with Him, canceling out their sins, and as proof of that they shall live unto God, or unto Christ who died for them. His death for them ensures they shall live...

Did Christ's Death succeed its purpose ? 3 More scripture giving the purpose and results of Christ's Death, that those He died for will serve Him ! 2 Cor 5:14-15 14 For the love of Christ constraineth us; because we thus judge, that if one died for all, then were all dead: 15 And that he died...

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Sure you being an adversary against the saving death of Christ.

You being a adversary to the efficacious saving death of Christ. !

mailmandan I agree, its bogus. If we condition salvation on anything we do, it automatically defaults to meritorious works salvation by man.

Did Christ's Death succeed its purpose ? 2 That He might bring us to God ! 1 Pet 3:18 For Christ also hath once suffered for sins, the just for the unjust, that he might bring us to God, being put to death in the flesh, but quickened by the Spirit: This is ones subjective Reconciliation to...

I dont know what you talking about. I know if you condition anything you do resulting in your salvation, its works salvation which is an enemy to Grace.

Its true because scripture is against salvation conditioned on mans works.

Faith or believing becomes our work for Salvation when and if we say Faith is the cause and not the result of our Salvation or Election to Salvation. Faith or believing becomes our work when we say they are required of us for our election or Salvation Faith or believing becomes our work when...

Its True whether its proven to you or not, your judgment not the criteria. You condition salvation on something you did, then what you did was meritorious.

The Sheep have always been Sheep even before they are born again, thats why they are born again, because their Shepherd died for them, then gives them a new nature, which identifies them as saved Sheep

rightglory Not so, only Gods elect. Notice who Peter addresses in the first chapter 1 Pet 1:2 2 Elect according to the foreknowledge of God the Father, through sanctification of the Spirit, unto obedience and sprinkling of the blood of Jesus Christ: Grace unto you, and peace, be multiplied.

I dont have to prove it. Truth is Truth whether its proved or not. 2 +2 = 4 whether its proved or not, a person may say it =5 no matter how much someone will try to prove is 4

Its all correct, His death converts to God, it effects all spiritual blessings that is needed for that Great end.