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  1. Brakelite

    Learning about Orthodoxy

    I agree with everything EGW advised regarding Sunday. There is no point that we unnecessarily become martyrs because we insist on working on Sunday. Let me make one thing clear. Working at our common labour earning money on Sunday is not a commandment, and we are not contravening the...
  2. Brakelite

    The Wrath of God - How is it love?

    Yes. But let us not think that such judgements, or executions of judgement, are done arbitrarily or without a large proportion of reluctance and sorrow. As scripture says, the infliction of suffering and death and punishment by God ultimately is a strange act to Him. It is necessary in context...
  3. Brakelite

    The Wrath of God - How is it love?

    True. Yes He is. God is love. Period. Everything He does, everything He says, is driven and informed by self sacrificing love.
  4. Brakelite

    The Wrath of God - How is it love?

    I think in hindsight we may view it as such, but I think for those primitive Christians in their early growth and understanding, there would have been a certain compelling fear of judgement that coloured their future behaviour and loyalties. Such fear, today I believe is unjustified knowing and...
  5. Brakelite

    The Wrath of God - How is it love?

    Absolutely. Most, unless their minds and hearts are changed into the image of Christ, behave in a manner that wrongly reflects what they do believe God to be like. And I speak of churchmen here, those who are quite happy to foresee and imagine an eternal suffering, and are willing to help God...
  6. Brakelite

    Learning about Orthodoxy

    Your aren't answering the question. Did Ellen White ever state that people who honoured Sunday and worshipped on that day, were apostates? Incidentally, many SDAs worship on Sunday. They may not go to church, but they do worship. They worship also on Monday and Thursday and Tuesday. There's...
  7. Brakelite

    The Wrath of God - How is it love?

    The Bible is actually quite straight forward when it comes to the ultimate punishment for sin. "The wages of sin is death". It repeats that same idea many many times, in both old and new testaments, combining it with punishment, eternal, oblivion, destruction. Why are so many opposed to what...
  8. Brakelite

    Learning about Orthodoxy

    Does she,? Interesting. Would that have been for the time she wrote in, or write of in the future?
  9. Brakelite

    Learning about Orthodoxy

    This^^^^^, is why I said quote, Fascinating that you guys are quite happy to bear false witness...
  10. Brakelite

    The Wrath of God - How is it love?

    If I come across a dog with his teeth sunk into the calf of my 4 year old grand son, that dog will die from my wrath and fury. I am being merciful in doing so. Not only on behalf of my grand son, but any potential future victims. The local council would whole heartedly agree, and would have done...
  11. Brakelite

    Learning about Orthodoxy

    There are two major flaws in your argument. First, the date is real. 22 October 1844 is a biblical milestone. You guys have no answer as to what it means, therefore I suggest you leave it alone, despite Miller getting the event wrong. Second, it wasn't the Seventh Day Adventist church that set...
  12. Brakelite

    The Wrath of God - How is it love?

    And after 4000 years of sacrificing animals one would think they would get the point. Substitutionary atonement of written across history in the blood of Goats and Calves and Lambs, all pointing to the future Saviour. Christ was treated as we deserve, that we might be treated as He deserves. He...
  13. Brakelite

    The Wrath of God - How is it love?

    Don't you choose to sin? Please don't claim God designed the fall in order to reveal the gospel. Such an idea is as crazy as evolution, a design that has death being the producer and refiner of life. God intended there be sin, rebellion, war, suffering and death just so He could show His love...
  14. Brakelite

    Learning about Orthodoxy

    Fascinating that you guys are quite happy to engage with one another, bear false witness, gain courage from one another's cowardice, and ignore what is being said to you by those who actually know. Unless of course you think they are lying, but then you would have to produce some real evidence...
  15. Brakelite

    SABBATH KEEPING

    Even if Paul and all the apostles had abandoned the seventh‑day Sabbath in favor of the first, under whose authority could they possibly have altered a direct command of God—one that had shaped Jewish life for over a thousand years, and whose neglect had only six centuries earlier led their...
  16. Brakelite

    SABBATH KEEPING

    Yes, funny that. He did do that didn't he. I wonder why there's no mention whatsoever of Paul reasoning with or meeting with anyone, at all, on the first day of the week?
  17. Brakelite

    SABBATH KEEPING

    Read Acts 13:42-48. Here was the perfect opportunity for Paul to teach the Gentiles your take on what day is the Sabbath... He didn't. He agreed to meet them, not the next day the first day of the week, but the next Sabbath. Paul, the Jews, and the Gentiles knew precisely what day the Sabbath...
  18. Brakelite

    SABBATH KEEPING

    Paul didn't have to command anyone to keep the Sabbath. Sabbath observance by Israel had been practised since time immemorial, and the early church simply carried on that practise, having absolutely no directive from either the Lord Himself or the apostles that there was any change.
  19. Brakelite

    ...and there was seen in his temple the ark of his testament...

    What we know as the mercy seat on top of the ark was guarded by two angels. Covering cherubs they were called. Important positions, and they were closest to the Father, as what they guarded was His throne. The seat of government. Inside that seat, that throne, was the foundation of God's...