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    How long O Lord

    What I've found to typically be true is that when one has the proper understanding of Amil it is the only end time doctrine that makes sense. Does believing in Amil make one right about every doctrine found in the Bible? Of course not! But of the different end time positions it is the only one...
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    How long O Lord

    Christ is the Lamb slain from the foundation of the world according to promise. For His sacrifice to make atonement for sin and defeat death, Christ must literally come to do the work ordained of Him from the foundation of the world. Since none of the promises of God shall ever fail, His...
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    How long O Lord

    Not literally, but yes through Covenant that God ordained in heaven before creation. The symbolism in the Revelation is all that comes to pass throughout redemptive history through the Lamb of God, who was slain (according to promise) from the foundation of the world. IOW God's plan to redeem a...
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    How long O Lord

    I read the passage differently GB. It doesn't say they are giving God all glory. It says "when those beasts give glory and honor and thanks to Him that sat on the throne." IOW And whensoever the living beings shall give (the future is used) glory and honour and thanks to Him who sitteth upon...
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    How long O Lord

    Marty, couldn't that be because you're viewing them from a Preterits point of view? In the time of Zechariah the four horses reporting quiet and stillness upon the earth, doesn't mean the world was without evil and death from the beginning. The earth in the days of Old, before the advent of...
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    The end in relation to when Christ initially returns.

    The spirit in men of faith is eternal, not immortal & incorruptible. It is our physical body, being mortal and corruptible that must be resurrected and changed from mortal to immortal, not our spirit. A spirit is not a physical body, it has no form. Christ proved this when His disciples...
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    More Evidence The End Is Near

    There is no evidence that the living elect of God were gathered together in 70 AD. The only elect that ascended to heaven with Christ after His resurrection were those who had died waiting for Christ to come. They are those saints who as spiritual body ascended to heaven with Christ. Because...
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    The end in relation to when Christ initially returns.

    It there will be no need to have a body of immortal flesh, why will the body of believers be resurrected and changed from mortal to immortal and corruptible to incorruptible? Yes, Paul does say there is both a natural, physical body, and a spiritual body and the two are not the same. That's...
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    More Evidence The End Is Near

    Yes, I agree this is true. The problem for the Preterit is that they have determined the return of Christ was not literally fulfilled but spiritually fulfilled while ignoring that Christ says He shall come again only "the second time." It's clear that Christ has not yet appeared the second...
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    Romans 11 and the real Replacement Theology

    The breath of life is our spirit. Our spirit is the inner man, which gives life functions to every part of our body. Our spirit is in essence who we are. It is our mind, heart, will, emotions, the control center for every organ and flow of blood. Soul too like our spirit equates to being...
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    More Evidence The End Is Near

    That isn't true with Preterism. Preterits view much and even most of the Olivet Discourse as that which physically came to pass against an apostate nation in 70 AD. But then when it comes to the signs of Christ and His coming again, you cannot make it literally fit. So rather than admit it...
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    The end in relation to when Christ initially returns.

    For those who are of faith in Christ, we have eternal life through His Spirit in us. We won't have immortal & incorruptible life until our body is resurrected and changed from mortal to immortal and corruptible to incorruptible.
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    More Evidence The End Is Near

    This is the problem with Preterism! It uses the Word of God to prove their doctrine, rather than allowing the Word of God to prove what they assume. That's why the Preterit must spiritualize what cannot be proven as having been literally fulfilled in 70 AD.
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    More Evidence The End Is Near

    Who was Christ speaking to here? Was it not those apostate Jews living in the first century AD charged with "all the righteous blood shed upon the earth"? The same as Babylon the great whore? Matthew 23:34-35 (KJV) Wherefore, behold, I send unto you prophets, and wise men, and scribes: and...
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    More Evidence The End Is Near

    I could say the same thing to you! It appears the Preterit reads all of Scripture through their preconceived Preterist doctrine. I too looked for about a minute at the doctrine you espouse. It didn't take me any longer to realize how comfortable the Preterit is to spiritualize all that does...
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    How long O Lord

    Marty, The four horses IMO are the same horses we read of in Zechariah. But the message is now changed instead of bringing a message of peace, the horses are sent out to fulfill the prophecy of Haggai. Zechariah writes they were sent by God to walk back and forth upon the earth. The report...
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    How long O Lord

    Marty, have you ever considered the vision in Rev 6 is a continuation of the vision John was given beginning in chapter 4?
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    Romans 11 and the real Replacement Theology

    That's simply a prayer for the whole person. That the spirit within the physical being (soul) along with the body of believers may be found blameless when the Lord comes again. The body + spirit is a living soul. But the body without the spirit is a corpse. A prayer for the well-being of the...
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    Romans 11 and the real Replacement Theology

    I agree the soul/spirit are intricately linked together, but when man is born again through the Spirit of Christ, the eternal life we receive through the Spirit within our spirit is eternal. Eternal life man possesses is spiritual life that even after physical death continues to be a living...
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    How long O Lord

    Thank you both for your prayers. I'm happy to report that I have restored vision 20/20 to my right eye and in about two weeks will have the same (hopefully) with my left. Right now things are a little blurred because of the drops, so I'll try this again when things are better. Hope you have a...