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    Spiritual gifts: Unconfusing them part 2

    They are called devout men from every nation under heaven. They weren't hearing supernaturally the speaking in unlearned languages, they were physically hearing them. To the remaining reply from you, we are not in agreement.
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    What happened to Enoch? Would love some input on this.

    Of course it could not say "all" the saints, but only the many who had already died were raised. The living were not raised only those many who had died. The mortal flesh of the saints who physically die shall not be resurrected immortal & incorruptible until an hour that is coming when the...
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    The Fig Tree - symbol of the New Covenant Church

    How can the fullness of the Gentiles coming into the good olive tree of faith be the fullness of 'heathen' Gentiles who trample the "Sancturary and God's earthly hosts, by the heathen Gentiles"?
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    The Fig Tree - symbol of the New Covenant Church

    Matthew 24:32-34 (KJV) Now learn a parable of the fig tree; When his branch is yet tender, and putteth forth leaves, ye know that summer is nigh: So likewise ye, when ye shall see all these things, know that it is near, even at the doors. Verily I say unto you, This generation shall not pass...
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    The Fig Tree - symbol of the New Covenant Church

    This contributes absolutely nothing to the discussion! Perhaps you can biblically prove how misunderstanding grammar will show how Paul's words should be intrepreted?
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    What happened to Enoch? Would love some input on this.

    According to Paul man has both a natural body of the earth, and a spiritual body as the heavenly. Just as in life we were natural body of believers, so too after our body dies we as a spiritual body of believers ascend to heaven. It is for this reason that Paul longed for physical death...
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    What happened to Enoch? Would love some input on this.

    What it says is that they appeared to many in the holy city. Where is the holy city, because after Christ is certain is not Jerusalem of this earth? They appeared to the multitude of heavenly hosts there. Luke 2:12-14 (KJV) And this shall be a sign unto you; Ye shall find the babe wrapped...
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    The Fig Tree - symbol of the New Covenant Church

    Yes, absolutely the heavenly Zion, the holy city new Jerusalem, the city of the Living God is being spiritually filled as the message of Christ goes unto all the nations of the world. Thanks for sharing, the fig tree as the New Covenant body of Christ is a doctrine I only recently began to...
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    The Fig Tree - symbol of the New Covenant Church

    For good reason it is commonly believed that when Scripture writes of the fig tree it symbolized Israel of Old. It's true that the fig tree was a symbol of the Old Covenant people called Israel, because of Israel's apostasy and spiritual adultery the prophets write that because the fig tree of...
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    The Fig Tree - symbol of the New Covenant Church

    You're right, we are in agreement regarding who the fig tree symbolizes, but here I will try to clarify my understanding. I should have said the blossoming of the fig tree that Christ told His disciples they would be witnesses of, is the New Covenant fig tree, not the Israel of Old, but Israel...
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    What happened to Enoch? Would love some input on this.

    This is one of the arguments I believe supports that what came out of the tombs were not physical bodies, but the spiritual body of believers, ascending spiritually to heaven with the Lord AFTER He was resurrected. And since they were not of physical flesh, they could not have gone into the...
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    The Fig Tree - symbol of the New Covenant Church

    A better translation according to whom exactly? Paul doesn't say the blindness in part shall be lifted once Israel of God is saved through Gentiles of faith being grafted together with Jews of faith into the good olive tree with them. All Israel that shall be saved is the Israel of God...
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    The Fig Tree - symbol of the New Covenant Church

    How can Israel that shall be saved be an ethnic people since Israel that shall be saved is saved by the fullness of the Gentiles? Does it not stand to reason that since both Jews of faith and Gentiles of faith are being grafted into the same good olive tree of faith, Israel that shall be saved...
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    What happened to Enoch? Would love some input on this.

    Here is the Strong's Greek translation. I don't read Greek so you'll have to discern for yourself whether you believe 'people' belongs in the verse. Matthew 27:53 (KJVSL) And καί came ἐξέρχομαι out of ἐκ the graves μνημεῖον after μετά his αὐτός resurrection ἔγερσις, and went εἰσέρχομαι into...
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    What happened to Enoch? Would love some input on this.

    You take the Covenant promise ordained from the foundation of the world through the Lamb slain to be fulfilled from the foundation of the world? It was through promise that Old Covenant faithful saints believing upon hearing of the Savior/Messiah were saved by grace before He came. However it...
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    Spiritual gifts: Unconfusing them part 2

    Thank you for the thoughtful reply. The need for self-edification is simply something I don't believe is seen in character of the Apostle Paul. I believe Paul speaking with tongue(s) meant he spoke with many different languages, not unknown, simply unlearned human languages. Through God...
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    The Fig Tree - symbol of the New Covenant Church

    The Fig Tree is a symbol of the New Covenant Church. Luke 13:6-9 (KJV) He spake also this parable; A certain man had a fig tree planted in his vineyard; and he came and sought fruit thereon, and found none. Then said he unto the dresser of his vineyard, Behold, these three years I come seeking...
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    What happened to Enoch? Would love some input on this.

    What translation are you using? I present three translations that do not say "appeared to many PEOPLE". Why does that matter? Because the holy city that was Israel of Old, ceased being a holy city when Christ came and cursed the city and it was left desolate. (Mt 23:37-38) They went into the...
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    What is "OSAS"?

    Doesn't appear that way to me Mary!
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    What is "OSAS"?

    Once again you prove you defend a doctrine that you have learned from man. I find it laughable that you have the audacity to accuse others of the very thing you are guilty of. Clearly, if you knew how to study the Word of God in the power of the Holy Spirit you would understand the same Holy...