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This thread is getting far too complicated for me...it is making my brain ache. Im reading along...but half the time I cant understand what the basic issue is!! All I know is...The Lamb was slain before the creation of the world. Therefore the God Head had the answer before it all began...

Well I am glad that all these are just "theories"... In other words ....opinions. :D

Amen... For me , Isa 53 ...."He saw the travail of His soul and was satisfied." "It pleased the Lord to bruise Him..." etc.... The whole motivation is Love...from Gen to Rev...always.

I am sorry, I am still way back at the beginning of this thread. No, He would never take His anger out on another person...that is why He took it upon Himself... 'The Great Creator became our Saviour and all God's fullness dwelleth in Him. '

Im not sure I understand very much. I never understand 'theories' much. But if it is what I think that it is...then I think I agree with it!! Now I must go back and read the whole thread , and see what its all about. :)

I don't mind it in the Debate section...and that is really where 'arguments' belong. It when there is a nice friendly thread bobbing along well, people disagreeing in a good spirit... then bam, in jumps someone who is always argumentative and changes the whole feeling of the thread. That...

Yes, nicely said. Even though some don't, I still like the phrase .."We need to learn how to disagree agreeably.." The thing that is distasteful and causes a negative atmosphere is when it gets personal...and the issue moves off the subject of discussion to the people themselves name calling...

But isn't the whole point of a discussion to find the balance of truth together?

I believe that a discussion become an argument as soon as one party is assertive, and tells the other person they are wrong...thus claiming that their own position is obviously right. Then it has become an argument...most times I don't even bother to answer because why 'discuss' if either of...

Yes amen..Good Word. In my years I have learned that a 'correction' which has at the heart of it redemption of a brothers walk, can help someone to correct their course if they have strayed from the path a bit. But a harsh word , as we often see here....which is not done with a loving heart...

Amen!!! Agree a thousand % :D Clearly said. I have come to almost hate the word Doctrine....and all it stands for today. It has become a control tool in the hands of the legalists.

Amen Rita... lovely reminder. ♥︎ Like you say...in our lonely moments ...He is the One remaining- as close as our own breath. :)

Wow...awesome...THAT is what I call ...' seeing God's fingerprint on our life'... Praise God B !! Great testimony. :)

Just remember B ( and @GodsGrace ) the thing is...just because the devil took God's words and the things of God and 'uses' them...does not make these phrases wrong!! Just like the rainbow...it is now taken by the Enemy...the very sign God used as a message of comfort toward mankind...and now...

Praise God and Amen ... It reminds me of a lady who lost her husband the same way...she said , ‘ he did not get his miracle , but he has now been ‘healed’.... Victory THROUGH the experience ...and Jesus waiting on the other shore.