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That's not biblical. It is hard to image how this most common of positions even comes about. Do people really hear or read a little gospel, then assume they are to fill in the blanks according to their own understanding and conjecture? Obviously, MANY do. And it just gets worse from there...

You're dishonestly not reading my answer. :rolleyes:

Yes, God is ultimately not mad. Even so, wrath in this world is from beginning to end to the condemnation of all born of women.

Yes, and yet the error (or lie as Paul put it) that has been believed, is that "each one in his own order" individually in their own time--is not in his own order, but in one mass event. The future mass event doctrine has been that lie.

The point is, God over time, has revealed Himself in three ways, and yet is One.

I referred to the lie foretold by Paul that causes strong delusion. If you missed it you can go back and read it again.

MERRY CHRISTMAS!

It is not wise to make such claims after 2,000 years of the church age wherein Jesus had somewhat against 5 out of 7 churches, Peter foretold of false teachers entering into the church teaching destructive doctrines, and Paul warned and foretold the believing of a lie causing strong delusion and...

In Northern California where I grew up there was a crazy restaurant with great food in a big old house run by a very strange women--many went there for prom night even--that had live chickens running all around inside. :Broadly: True story.

Every departure from the truth of God is a falling away...since the beginning.

The general thrust of his previous post, to which I was replying.

There are an equal number of rebuttals as there are theories possible. And yes, many are to be considered false doctrine...at least in a legal sense. Still, it is not wrong to count "the Father", "the Son", and "the Holy Spirit" as three. The error then is one of not recognizing that God is...

Yes, but to clarify, the falling away was the fall, after which all born of women were condemned to perish, lest they take also of the true of Life--.

This is not a discussion. Corrections were to come, and have come. Your above explanation does not make void the fact that Jesus had "finished" with the house of Israel, even including the mission given to the disciples regarding the lost tribes. Jesus spoke of that generation. The whole...

There is soooooo much confrontation regarding the Trinity doctrine--I hate to add to it. But it is all really quite simple: Each would-be "person" of the so-called Trinity, are simply known by their revelation and presentation given by God--who is otherwise One God. Hence, the term...

In the simplest of terms, Jesus came for the house of Israel, finished/fulfilled, and then went on to the other fold of the gentiles which He must also bring. Thus, all that remains of the house of Israel is the bloodline that Jesus finished with, a bloodline not elect for salvation among the...

Unfortunately, that all flies in the face of Jesus' claim, saying “Do not think that I came to destroy the Law or the Prophets. I did not come to destroy but to fulfill" (Matthew 5:17). Thus, becoming part of the "lie" foretold by Paul (2 Thessalonians 2:11).

It should be noted that there is a bloodline heritage identification, but more importantly a spiritual line and heritage only in Christ. As it is not the bloodline that inherits the kingdom of God, but the spirit, which only comes in Christ making one new man of both Greek and Jew.

And so you stand without excuse.