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yeah, I thought so... :rolleyes:

Most people here agree with Luther.., they are called Protestants. Because you don't understand spiritual things you are mischaracterizing what I say...because you haven't learned to actually have a conversation...just a holier than thou pontificating. You are stuck. But you can learn...

A lot of needless smoke and mirrors there Mark. I'm asking you what you think it means. If you don't know then say so... I know the bible speaks the truth. I don't think very many people actually know what Paul is talking about. So how is sin removed?

I don't know why you think I never read the bible before. But I ask you again... How is sin removed? Is it the penalty for sin that is removed? Or does crucifixion kill ALL sin with its power....to make one pure and without sin? In Him is NO sin. Do you claim that your reckoning extends to...

Are you saying that the fish you are holding is not a photo-shopped minnow? I am very careful to investigate...using scepticism...until God shows me what something means. Whether by visitation, vision...I'm careful to say only in what I KNOW to be true others here use a religious speculation...

I noticed you said..."sin is removed"...could you explain how that is accomplished? I know EG says that the penalty for sin is paid. That follows Luther. Are you saying something different?

There is literally no end to religious presumptions and assumptions.

You are no longer Protestant? Most here would think that I finally understood the gospel...according to Luther, that is. Doesn't grace abound in order to cover your abundant sin? Please explain how your view has changed.

You do understand the premise, right? Luther said that we can sin boldly because in that scheme NO amount of our sins can quench His grace. So basically sin is no longer counted against us ...God only sees Jesus. He can't see Christian sinners. Our sins are no longer sinful because He did it...

Thank you! Reformers think that nobody before the 1500's knew anything about following Christ. That's pretty arrogant...and only proves that Protestantism is a distortion of the truth...a newfangled series of errors based on the premise that people are not responsible for sin because of grace...

Are you saying that sanctification is NOT progressive? That a person is fully sanctified in an experience of grace? You are confusing things without ANY scriptural back-up. And you are contradicting yourself here to make a point that you vehemently deny elsewhere. Proof that you are flying by...

Only if it stands against the power of God that is in God. Can we boast for an acorn against the tree that produced it?

That is a rendering from the statement by EG that read "You want to run again, Run, It will not stop me" A brief summery of the seeming difference in meaning: The syntax and conjugation are somewhat obscured by a regulatory distortion that allows for one ideology to be juxtaposed with another...

It's backward speech. In French there is something called "Verlan"...it is "envers" (or backwards) with the syllables reversed. There is a Belgian artist who calls himself "Stromae"...and that is verlan for "maestro". Now EG has mastered the art of backward speech.

Yes they do. But God visiting us with a gift of initial grace is not the same as going to where He is to get the full measure. God wants to be in relationship with us. For that we need to go to Him. ALL who are of faith recognize that.

The new birth is Christ in a person...to put on Christ we have to go where He is. The disciples asked Him....Master, where do you live? Jesus responded "Come and see"

That would be like Moses getting a book on how part the Red Sea. The OT is perhaps more of a "how to" book...based on learning righteousness. But not the NT...as in..."how to raise the dead in three easy steps." The NT speaks of a miraculous walk given to those who please Him and to whom it...

Not accept the truthfulness for oneself. Seek God and ask Him to make it a reality in your life. Why all the reactions against seeking God for power and truth? Would it be like the mafia calling the police?

Why is all the truth I'm trying to convey to going unnoticed? Why is truth seen as slander? Consider the part of you that motivates that reaction. Think...is it carnal? Is it a divine nature? Why is it every time I speak of hypocrites in general you take it personal? i realize that if I...

It's meant to either lead us to God or deceive us into justifying ourselves. So either we will be blessed by it or cursed by it. It depends how we read it and what part of us we think it's speaking to. The truth is that a modern Publican would beat his chest and quickly identify himself with...