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  1. Spiritual Israelite

    Did Jesus return around 70 AD?

    LOL. Oh boy, here we go. Hello? Why would Paul say "those of us who have fallen asleep" when he wasn't dead? But, he was not saying he knew for sure that he would be alive when Jesus came. That's ridiculous. He was simply saying that those who have fallen asleep (are physically dead) will be...
  2. Spiritual Israelite

    Pretrib fallacies

    LOL. Yet, you are completely incapable of backing that claim up. Nonsense. He said "all who are in their graves", not "all Jews who are in their graves". You're just making things up here. I can't take you seriously. You can't back up your beliefs with scripture. The bride of Christ consists...
  3. Spiritual Israelite

    Did Jesus return around 70 AD?

    Jesus did not ascend bodily to heaven and then come back shortly after His resurrection. He ascended bodily to heaven once and that's where He still is today until He returns bodily in the future. Scripture never teaches what you're claiming. You are misinterpreting why Jesus told Mary not to...
  4. Spiritual Israelite

    Did Jesus return around 70 AD?

    The Preterist view has many, many holes in it. Matthew 27:52-53 does not refer to the resurrection of all of the dead and it says nothing about anyone being resurrected to shame and everlasting contempt. Matthew 27:52-53 only refers to a local resurrection near Jerusalem and it was a...
  5. Spiritual Israelite

    Did Jesus return around 70 AD?

    You are just making an assumption for no real reason other than that both verses mention Michael. That is not how to interpret scripture. The context of each passage is different, as I already explained. Do you see any resurrection referenced in Revelation 12? It's not there. You're trying to...
  6. Spiritual Israelite

    Antichrist theories

    Nothing in particular. Luke 21:29 Then He spoke to them a parable: “Look at the fig tree, and all the trees. 30 When they are already budding, you see and know for yourselves that summer is now near. 31 So you also, when you see these things happening, know that the kingdom of God is near...
  7. Spiritual Israelite

    Antichrist theories

    Right. There's no individual Antichrist mentioned there anywhere. John taught that there are many antichrists and that anyone who denies Christ is an antichrist.
  8. Spiritual Israelite

    The Case for a Post-Tribulation Second Coming

    There is an order to things that happen in the Olivet Discourse and Jesus referred to certain events there, so I don't see why you don't relate the seals to events. It makes no sense to have what is described in relation to the first seal as happening after the sounding of the fifth trumpet. Not...
  9. Spiritual Israelite

    Did Jesus return around 70 AD?

    Yes, that is talking about the resurrection of ALL of the dead at the coming hour that Jesus spoke about. Not all of the dead have been resurrected, so it hasn't happened yet. Don't turn something simple into something complicated. I don't believe Revelation 12:7 has any direct relation to...
  10. Spiritual Israelite

    The Case for a Post-Tribulation Second Coming

    I don't know what you're talking about. How are you coming to this conclusion?
  11. Spiritual Israelite

    Did Jesus return around 70 AD?

    No, He certainly was not. Matthew 27:52-53 says nothing about anyone being resurrected unto condemnation at that time, as Jesus referenced in John 5:28-29. The resurrection of the dead in relation to what Jesus was talking about in John 5:28-29 will occur when Jesus returns. Scripture is clear...
  12. Spiritual Israelite

    Connecting the dots = a pre-tribulation rapture.

    Right. There's no reason at all for anyone to think that the coming of the Son of Man in Matthew 25:1-13 is different than the coming of the Son of Man in Matthew 24:29-31. Therefore, Matthew 25:1-13 refers to the second coming of Christ "after the tribulation of those days" and Matthew 24:31...
  13. Spiritual Israelite

    The Case for a Post-Tribulation Second Coming

    So, you have the first seal event occurring some time after the fifth trumpet sounds? That's still a new one to me. How long after?
  14. Spiritual Israelite

    Did Jesus return around 70 AD?

    Because Jesus said that the hour is coming when all of the dead will be resurrected. Obviously, not all of the dead have been resurrected yet and people are still dying, so that hour has not yet come. Very simple. John 5:28 Do not marvel at this; for the hour is coming in which all who are in...
  15. Spiritual Israelite

    The Case for a Post-Tribulation Second Coming

    You equate the timing of the first seal with the timing of the fifth trumpet? If so, that's a new one.
  16. Spiritual Israelite

    Connecting the dots = a pre-tribulation rapture.

    You are denying that the flood was a global flood? You can't be taken seriously. You have no clue. The flood in Noah's day was global and killed all people in the world except Noah and his family. Jesus used that example to show the scope of what will happen when He returns, which is described...
  17. Spiritual Israelite

    Pretrib fallacies

    In God's eyes we were figuratively crucified with Christ, not physically. Do you really think that God saw Paul as being physically dead at that time? Of course not. Paul was speaking figuratively of putting off his former sinful, lost self and putting on his new self with Christ living in him...
  18. Spiritual Israelite

    Did Jesus return around 70 AD?

    I agree. That is the Amil understanding of the first resurrection. But, what Premils don't understand is that being born again and made spiritually alive in Christ is what is required in order for the second death to not have power over us, so that has to be taken into account when interpreting...
  19. Spiritual Israelite

    Did Jesus return around 70 AD?

    It says the souls John saw lived and reigned with Christ a thousand years. It does not say they bodily came back to life. Other scripture teaches that Christ's bodily resurrection was the first resurrection, so that can't be ignored. Acts 26:23 that the Christ would suffer, that He would be the...