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  1. Wrangler

    Happy Birthday Angelina!!!

    Happy Birthday! Are you 29 today?
  2. Wrangler

    Once Saved, Always Saved?

    OSAS is an abdication of justice. God does have absolute faithfulness - to justice and those who are faithful to him. To say otherwise is an abomination.
  3. Wrangler

    Why do some Christians believe that people who commit suicide go to Hell?

    It’s like saying since stealing is wrong so is stealing from yourself. This is muddling of terms. Because murder means unjustified killing of another, there is no thing as self homocide. It’s nonsense..
  4. Wrangler

    Once Saved, Always Saved?

    Why? Do Christ‘s words before Pentecost have no applicability or value beyond a historical record?
  5. Wrangler

    Once Saved, Always Saved?

    No. I don’t even understand how you get there from what I wrote. Glad you used the -ing form of abide. Jesus is telling us to act In order for him to act in you. The consequences of not acting is too terrible to contemplate. The default destination for human beings is death. When Jesus decides...
  6. Wrangler

    Once Saved, Always Saved?

    Not only do we fundamentally disagree about the importance actions that prove one’s faith, your position goes against Scripture. Although there are many verses, Christ states the contract, ‘abide in me and I will abide in you.’ This means we may NOT abide in him and if so, his Spirit will not...
  7. Wrangler

    Once Saved, Always Saved?

    Agreed. OSAS is not about the faithfulness of God or Jesus; it's ignoring our potential to repent to be faithless again and rescind our heart from Christ.
  8. Wrangler

    Once Saved, Always Saved?

    I don't really understand your question but the 2nd sentence is Circular Reasoning - both your premise and your conclusion in denial of Hebrews 10:26 and may other verses. Seems to me you are taking this 'incorruptible seed' too literally or too mystically. Yes, my wife can clean the kitchen...
  9. Wrangler

    Once Saved, Always Saved?

    Nor does it have to say that, specifically, since the audience are those believers with the incorruptible seed. When I tell my teenage daughter to be home at 9 PM, I don't have to include healthy, without damaging the car and call us if you ever have any trouble. Not every expression has to be...
  10. Wrangler

    Your favorite books

    Funny story. What got me into reading books is when I was going through a tough time and heard a song. I tried to really apply the words to the song to my situation. Someone said Aristotle wrote on that topic also. I compared what the singer had to say to what Aristotle had to say on the topic...
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    Your favorite books

    Other advice on finding time to read: Don‘t watch TV. Discipline. Set time to read every day. I do devotional Bible study as soon as I wake up, before I have food or drink. Read the last hour before sleep. You’ll find you fall asleep faster. Take a variety of books with you when you travel...
  12. Wrangler

    Your favorite books

    I agree! If you aren’t reading with a pen you aren’t really reading. This got me into fountain pens with different color inks, to signify different things.
  13. Wrangler

    Your favorite books

    This is most over-rated as an adult reader. Good for 5th graders.
  14. Wrangler

    Your favorite books

    Welcome to one of the best hobbies of all time! I have kept a ranked list since I got out of college, which I also categorized. There are so many great books! What genres most interest you? I‘ll provide my list of 4 and 5-star books later, which include tremendous self-help books that changed...
  15. Wrangler

    Once Saved, Always Saved?

    Came across a couple of verses that further undermine OSAS. 1 Tim 5:8 Anyone who does not provide for their relatives, and especially for their own household, has denied the faith and is worse than an unbeliever. How can someone who is saved, with incorruptible seed deny the faith? Having this...
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    Once Saved, Always Saved?

    @JustMe, perhaps this will help. If one is using variants, it violates the logical construct, such as instead of M one uses M1 @ major premise and M2 for the minor premise. In other words, you cannot use the word M in sense M1 at major premise but use sense M2 at minor premise AND have a...
  17. Wrangler

    Once Saved, Always Saved?

    That's fine that you have little comprehension of logic and its application. You just can't escape its consequence. Inference. Why would Jesus talk about burning branches in a fire that don't produce fruit if OSAS is Biblical?
  18. Wrangler

    The Heaven Going Lie - Voting Results

    I wrote YES, if actions follow false believe, e.g., sin with impunity.
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    We can't Earn : What is FREE

    Jeremiah 25:14 I will repay them according to their deeds and the work of their hands. I believe the dividing lines is "works" is a derogatory term that people apply to earning their own salvation. This is different from the responsibility we have being saved to "work." The question of...
  20. Wrangler

    USA attacks Venezuela, captures President Nicolás Maduro and his wife

    Nope. It PERFECTLY expresses what Jesus meant. Do you notice he said we are from this world? Totally consistent with give to Caesar what is Caesar’s. You’re obviously overly spiritualized to not give soulful needs their due.