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  1. GodsGrace

    Can One Be Christian and Not Believe In The Trinity?

    Jesus is God. He was in heaven. He came down to earth. He became human (a divine human person would be more accurate). Is this not a lowering?? He was a unique being.... GOD. Now He was a human being. (and also a divine being).
  2. GodsGrace

    Can One Be Christian and Not Believe In The Trinity?

    Right. But who can really understand it? Not most folk. Same for the Trinity/Godhead. What's the difference between Trinity and Godhead? This is from Google Genesis: The main difference is that Godhead refers to God's singular essence or divine nature, while Trinity refers to the three...
  3. GodsGrace

    Can One Be Christian and Not Believe In The Trinity?

    This was in your post no. 142 regarding power and intrigue: So with the Trinity instead of taking the risk of confusing the tar out of us with images of things we cannot understand.....He kept it simple.....Father and Son and Holy Spirit....well Holy Spirit is still a mystery. We maybe shocked...
  4. GodsGrace

    Can One Be Christian and Not Believe In The Trinity?

    Right. Because Father is not Son and V V. This is why there is only ONE BEING but THREE PERSONS. Exactly the same in essence but unique and different in Personhood. The Son went to the cross. Not the Father. The Father wanted to create Not the Son (but creation was through the WORD...Jesus)...
  5. GodsGrace

    Can One Be Christian and Not Believe In The Trinity?

    Not familiar with the Ebionites. This is from Google's Gemini: The Ebionites were a Jewish-Christian group who believed Jesus was the human Jewish Messiah but was not divine. They insisted on strict observance of Jewish law, including circumcision and dietary rules, and rejected the writings...
  6. GodsGrace

    Can One Be Christian and Not Believe In The Trinity?

    Why does Jesus' sacrifice make sense? Why couldn't God just forgive those that ask forgiveness? Why do I have to pay for a sin that Adam committed? Again,,,the Trinity does not have to be understood, but it does have to be accepted. Those that state that Jesus is not God (thus rejecting the...
  7. GodsGrace

    Can One Be Christian and Not Believe In The Trinity?

    Correct. The residents of Antioch that were not Jewish gave this designation to those that followed Christ to delineate them from those that did not. So those that did not believe Jesus was the Messiah continued to be known as Jewish. Those that did believe that Jesus was the Messiah came to be...
  8. GodsGrace

    Government Shutdown

    Could you say why you believe this??
  9. GodsGrace

    Can One Be Christian and Not Believe In The Trinity?

    Correct...the Holy Spirit is of the same essence as the Father and the Son. They are also united in will... When Jesus was on earth, He had lowered Himself. This is why He did NOT know everything and He was not omnipresent. This is also correct. The Father is not the Son The Son is not the...
  10. GodsGrace

    Can One Be Christian and Not Believe In The Trinity?

    Very good post and I think I'm beginning to understand why you say there are 3 Gods... but it sounds really wrong and really this expression should disappear from your language because the rest is really good and detailed. Can't you say what the Trinity teaches?? There is One God comprised of...
  11. GodsGrace

    Can One Be Christian and Not Believe In The Trinity?

    :thumbsupx1 I think Yeshua would be (and is) rather entertained by all our convesations about Him. Entertained by all the teachings of His we got wrong. I've always found it interesting that He didn't write anything of His own but depended on the Apostles to disseminate his teachings. (which...
  12. GodsGrace

    Is it possible to lose salvation?

    Oh no! Another brain teaser! And how many Marys washed Jesus' feet with perfume? Was it the same Mary in both gospels or a different one?? Too late here for this hard-thinking. Personally, I don't know how we could be sure. Could that John be the Mark that wrote the gospel? And on that note,,,I...
  13. GodsGrace

    Can One Be Christian and Not Believe In The Trinity?

    I'm not sure why you posted Acts 11:25-26 There had to be a name for those that had been abolished from the synogague and had to begin their own religion/church. So they were first called Christians. By the end of the first century and beginning of the second century, the term Catholic began to...
  14. GodsGrace

    Can One Be Christian and Not Believe In The Trinity?

    Well, that's it then. BUT You yourself have stated that the title Christian is misused. But you don't say HOW. Maybe by those that do not keep to Christian tenets? IOW,,,when we tell someone we're Christian...what we believe SHOULD be understood. Seems that you haven't grasped my OP... but...
  15. GodsGrace

    Is it possible to lose salvation?

    Right. The KJV sounded more like 3. The Beraen study Bible sounded more like 4. And, here's another reason it MUST be three: Christmas is coming up soon. This is a popular desert in Italy: Too bad I didn't think of it !! LOL
  16. GodsGrace

    Is it possible to lose salvation?

    LOL This is what the discussion was about. It might be 3. It might be 4. Of course it's not important...which was also stated. But,,,looks like you hit the nail on the head... Three.
  17. GodsGrace

    Is it possible to lose salvation?

    So tell me Amigo.... How many Marys were at the foot of the cross? John 19:25 English Standard Version but standing by the cross of Jesus were his mother and his mother’s sister, Mary the wife of Clopas, and Mary Magdalene. Berean Standard Bible Near the cross of Jesus stood His mother and...
  18. GodsGrace

    Is it possible to lose salvation?

    Just happened to see this when replying and am not too interested because there's plenty of balme to go around. From what I can remember, what you're stating is correct except that I seem to remember that IF Calvin had spoken on Severtes behalf he might have been released...you seem to be saying...
  19. GodsGrace

    Can One Be Christian and Not Believe In The Trinity?

    Finally ! And there's no heresy involved. I'll tell you this GH.... the Trinity is VERY difficult to define...which is why I tend to keep away from it - but it'll be brought up in this thread. Sometimes two persons are saying exactly the same but using different words. If we would just keep it...
  20. GodsGrace

    Is it possible to lose salvation?

    The reply is too complicated. Do YOU understand everything in the bible? I don't and need help every now and then.