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Not talking about the ten commandments. The law that stood in for the Seed of promise is the Levitical law representing the atonement which Christ could not physically have administered until "the fullness of time had come (Galatians 4:4)."

All this stuff has been addressed. Spam all you like. It just gives the thread more visibility. :)

Haven't we been over this? And this? Definitely! It sure sounds like a good idea, doesn't it? As they did under the theocracy? No. No, but it does tend to alienate an awful lot of folks. Christ conscientiously alienated so many religious people that they eventually had Him killed. Wouldn't...

[ Possibly the one He refers to as His "holy day?" He said it--not me. :) ...unless it's not established... (I try to avoid using words like "obviously.") ...except that we can't, really. I don't see anything similar at all between circumcision and rest. The first thing I think of when...

But isn't this just another way of saying the Sabbath is either optional or of less importance than the other 9 commandments? Is it legalism to have strict personal policies regarding murder, theft, adultery, idolatry, etc.? :)

All been covered. All of the desperate application of faulty human logic and rationalization won't suffice to prove the change or annulment of the 4th commandment of God's perpetual royal law. For instance: So, I guess if the words "Sabbath" and "rest" are interchangeable, then the Colossians...

I've already addressed all of this stuff. I'd prefer an engaging discussion rather than to have to field a lot of false accusations and endless protesting. But thanks for participating. :)

Fair enough. I was still looking, but I got distracted. But was it actually meant to be a shadow, if the spiritual nature of the phrase was already expressed in Deuteronomy?

Actually, I'm having a hard time finding a reference to the circumcision of the heart in the New Testament.

I can't help but notice that it doesn't say "And this is His ONLY commandment," :)

Thanks for participating. :cool:

Do you know of Scripture declaring that the 4th commandment--the Seventh-day Sabbath--was ceremonial and a foreshadow of the circumcision of the heart? Neither passage refers to the Seventh-day Sabbath. There was a problem with Gentile Christians judging and persecuting Jewish converts to...

Semantics. Multiple definitions of biblical fulfillment in the anti-Sabbatarian view. There never was an outstanding debt of rest. And, indeed, no debt can be paid by the keeping of a commandment. Circumcision and the Sabbath, even though always paired together in the anti-Sabbatarian view...

But, by this logic, any of the ten commandments that were being kept since the beginning would not be needed as one of the ten commandments. God said that Abraham kept not only His commandments, but His statutes and judgments. The book of Genesis is filled with references to acknowledgments and...

So why is that for every 9 anti-Sabbitarians (for lack of a better term) you query about this situation, you get 10 different answers? And yet there's no place in the Bible where it explicitly says that the Sabbath has been wholly replaced by our spiritual rest in Christ. And since the fourth...

Youbetcha. :)

No kidding? I've only been studying the Bible for 32 years. I haven't reached that advanced level of sacerdotal acumen yet. Honestly. Did you read the part of my post you quoted? Where is the tie-in to R-E-G-E-N-E-R-A-T-I-O-N?

Not all covenants are related to the process of regeneration (what would the postdiluvian rainbow represent?). I've already discussed at length my basic views of the old and new covenants. I'd rather not volley about it if it's all the same to you. Yeah, pretty much everyone is doing that...

Thanks :) I think I can agree with this. There is milk, and then there is meat, though. Absolutely not Yeah, we do kinda seem to be stuck in Matthew 12, don't we? :)

So good to see you back!!! Hugs to you, too! :D:D:D