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  1. GodsGrace

    Why I don't believe in a pretrib rapture

    I ask because THERE IS NO SECOND RESURRECTION. And it will NOT be happening ANYWHERE since it does not exist. However, you're allowed to believe what you will,,, and this will be my last post to you.
  2. GodsGrace

    Why I don't believe in a pretrib rapture

    No parables here Taken. Just very clear teachings from Paul. And do you think Jesus did NOT want persons to understand Him? or Perhaps you THINK some on these boards don't understand Him? I repeat.... I see no scripture from you. Not a good sign. hmmx1:
  3. GodsGrace

    Why I don't believe in a pretrib rapture

    Changing the subject? Changing the subject? Clear scripture is "my opinion"? Here is YOUR scripture, in some more detail for those reading along that may be interested in knowing that the rapture is a false teaching invented by a man in the 1830's...by the name of John Nelson Darby. Like...
  4. GodsGrace

    Is it possible to lose salvation?

    Thank you for admitting that Calvinism DID NOT EXIST before the 1500's. It was NEVER taught in the early church. Isn't it wonderful that John Calvin caused what Jesus stated was NEVER to happen? Here is what Jesus stated: John 17:20-21 20 "I do not ask on behalf of these alone, but for those...
  5. GodsGrace

    Why I don't believe in a pretrib rapture

    You have not posted ANY scripture that posits that some rapture is going to take place. You misunderstand Thessalonians and don't even seem to know WHY Paul wrote to them regarding the end times. As to languages.... Do you not trust those that have translated the NT for you? Apparently you not...
  6. GodsGrace

    Why I don't believe in a pretrib rapture

    YOUR verse 1 Thessalonians 4 1 Thes 4: [15] For this we say unto you by the word of the Lord, that we which are alive and remain unto the coming of the Lord shall not prevent them which are asleep. [16] For the Lord himself shall descend from heaven with a shout, with the voice of the...
  7. GodsGrace

    Is it possible to lose salvation?

    Apparently God HAS spoken to those that teach Calvinism...like John Calvin for example... because they teach a DIFFERENT gospel. Which we are warned against. Galatians 1:7-8 7 which is really not another; only * there are some who are disturbing you and want to distort the gospel of Christ. 8...
  8. GodsGrace

    Why I don't believe in a pretrib rapture

    I don't see any scripture. I don't see any of Jesus' teaching. Jesus said no one knows the time,,,and yet we have Christians trying to figure out the time. I prefer to listen and learn from Jesus. Paul did not teach any rapture. Your opinion does not interest me Taken. Post scripture.
  9. GodsGrace

    Why I don't believe in a pretrib rapture

    Yes sir. Agreed.
  10. GodsGrace

    Is it possible to lose salvation?

    The problem is that the children are NOT raised in ANY kind of Christian home. Atheism is taught in the home, in school and in culture.
  11. GodsGrace

    Why I don't believe in a pretrib rapture

    I respond to scripture. Not personal opinion. Please show,,,with NT scripture from the Apostles that were teaching what Jesus taught that Jesus is going to remove persons from earth before a great tribulation. My understanding is that those that believe in the rapture DO believe that Jesus is...
  12. GodsGrace

    Why I don't believe in a pretrib rapture

    It's your opinion. Some verses please? There is ONLY ONE resurrection. The one at the end of the world. Unless, of course, you can prove otherwise.
  13. GodsGrace

    Why I don't believe in a pretrib rapture

    Revelation? The book that is interpreted differently by tens of denominations and/or theologians? I prefer solid scripture upon which DOCTRINE can be definitely determined. You are free to believe what you will. And no one has addressed the fact that the rapture was NEVER taught in the early...
  14. GodsGrace

    Why I don't believe in a pretrib rapture

    Who knows WHAT ELSE is hidden that we don't know about ! What a conundrum !
  15. GodsGrace

    Why I don't believe in a pretrib rapture

    Who is unlearned Taken? You should not heed anyone,,, you should heed the bible. My statement is this, and THIS I KNOW: Jesus is coming back ONE TIME at the end of the world to give EVERYONE their resurrected bodies.... those that are IN THE GRAVE and are already dead... AND also to thsoe...
  16. GodsGrace

    WHAT IS MEANT IN HEBREWS SAYING THERE IS NO MORE SACRIFICE FOR SINS?

    Proverbs,,,you're just repeating what is written in the article. I wanted a specific sentence that states that the Temple must be rebuilt in order to accomodate the New Covenant. No temple is necessary in the New Covenant. WE are the new temple. The temple has become spiritual. No more...
  17. GodsGrace

    WHAT IS MEANT IN HEBREWS SAYING THERE IS NO MORE SACRIFICE FOR SINS?

    Oh. So what I'd need to know is HOW Peter and Paul are disagreeing... IF this is what you're saying. Jesus taught what Paul taught. Paul taught what Peter taught. All the Apostles taugth the same. Paul made this very clear: 1 Corinthians 3:3-4 3 for you are still fleshly. For since there is...
  18. GodsGrace

    WHAT IS MEANT IN HEBREWS SAYING THERE IS NO MORE SACRIFICE FOR SINS?

    Don't know anything about dispensationalism. Mainline Christianity is so wonderful ! Yes sir. There is only one church and one teaching and Jesus and Paul stated that we are to be united. Jesus sent out the Apostles to teach all nations. He did NOT state which gospel since there is only one...
  19. GodsGrace

    Why I don't believe in a pretrib rapture

    When is the second resurrection? As I've said many times,,,I don't know much about eschatology... 7 seals and all that. I agree with some of what you've said IF I've understood it correctly. However, I do NOT believe there is a TRIBULATION, at which time SOME may be taken away and unbelievers...
  20. GodsGrace

    WHAT IS MEANT IN HEBREWS SAYING THERE IS NO MORE SACRIFICE FOR SINS?

    Just got here and I should be writing to @Doug, I guess. He might mean that there are two TYPES of church.... one made of brick and mortar...the one we attend on Sunday. It's a building known as a church. Then there is the one you mention which is the Body of Christ. In THIS sense, which I...