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"Lord have mercy on me, a sinner." And Paul confessed that in him, that is in his flesh, dwelt no good thing. The flesh lusteth against the spirit and the spirit lusteth against the flesh. The issue has to do with which one we are walking after and sowing to, the flesh or the spirit.

Amen i agree. I believe the 144,000 represent the bride of Christ....the heavenly city that comes down adorned as a bride. The number 12 features numerous times in describing the city/bride in Rev 21. 12 x 12 = 144 And those 144,000 are described as being virgins. Paul wrote that he...

I'm not familiar with Witness Lee or his teachings. Would you like to discuss it a bit? Had a quick look at what seems to be his main point regarding "mingling of God with man", which is that the self isn't annihilated. Sounds about right I think - it's more about the self being subdued...

Hi brother, I think there is information about Watchman Nee on the internet if you want to research the man and his teachings further, but according to the book cover he became a believer in the underground church in China in 1920 and subsequently was imprisoned for his faith from 1952 to 1972...

Am currently re-reading Watchman Nee's Breaking of the Outer Man and Release of the Spirit. It confirms and explains certain things that are in scripture having to do with how and why it is the Lord's will that we undergo trials and tribulations in this life. The natural strength of our outer...

Thank you for your testimony sister...it's very encouraging. :)

Haven't read through the whole thread, and I love this whole topic of repentance, and I just want to offer these thoughts, which may or may not need tweeking......."Repent and believe" suggests to me that we first need to repent of unbelief. After that we begin repenting of specific sins, and...

Maybe a shallow root, that the parable of the sower speaks about...at once received the word with joy but when trouble or persecution comes they fall away.

Yes, we are to seek His will and His strength or power to do His will. Is that what you mean? I won't try to speak for others but sometimes I find that I have fallen short in something and need to seek the Lord for strength to obey or for Him to change me so that I can. I'm not sure I agree...

Think I know what you mean and it is not always easy to say it in the right way without inadvertently nullifying any side of the coin, but in James the bible says that we are not justified by faith alone, but by faith and works working together. We do come out of Egypt (leaving the womb so to...

You wait on the Lord, you rely on Him and you cry out to Him and seek Him, and I assume you also obey Him the best you know how even when it hurts. This is the part of the believer and in so doing we are growing and maturing, as the Lord also does His part. In the parable of the talents, the...

Parable of the ten virgins. And remember Jesus said to count the cost of following Him. And the parable of the man who was building a tower but didn't have sufficient to finish it. Scripture says to "buy" the truth but sell it not. And notice the extra oil for the virgins' lamps is a...

No argument from me here sister. Our part is just to follow and obey....seeking His righteousness and kingdom. We are His workmanship. Nothing I'm saying contradicts this.

It is in order to receive the prize. Sister, we are saved by faith and that not of our own, it was a free gift. But after that we are to start counting the cost....paying a price to follow Jesus and thus be buying more oil for our lamps to keep them lit. This is meaty, and harder to digest...

There are some important areas that I disagree with Epi over. However on this issue we are talking about now, I believe he is right. Jesus was teaching His disciples...He wouldn't have been teaching unbelievers to take up a cross they didn't yet have or to do anything for His sake. What He...

I can't agree with your "overblown sample" analogy. That is downplaying and scoffing at the power of God unto salvation. Someone who has come to faith and received the earnest of the Spirit, were they to die just seconds later without any opportunity to do anything about it, would be saved and...

Doing my best to sort out the wheat from the chaff in what is being discussed, but I think he may be onto something with this part of things. After His death and resurrection Jesus said to Mary at the tomb "touch me not for I have not yet gone to the Father" to present Himself to the Father as...

This would seem to agree with "Except a corn of wheat falls into the ground to die it abideth alone, but if it die it brings forth much fruit." i don't know if you have read any of Watchman Nee, but he referred to it as the breaking of the outer man. Jhn 12:24-26 Verily, verily, I say unto...

Yes, willful sins are not quite the same as inadvertent sins, however any sin we are aware of that we have committed needs to be repented of. Once repented of it is forgiven and brought under the blood same as the sins we sinned prior to knowing the Lord. To my understanding, I believe the...

Yes, I believe we are reconciled to God - through the reconciliation of the debt (which is one definition of what atonement means). Agree that we couldn't reconcile that debt, but only the perfect spotless sinless Lamb of God could and did on behalf of all who would believe in Him.