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    Forgiveness vs Atonement

    The false accusations and assumptions are ceaseless. Being born again apparently doesn't mean much at all to Epi. The very cornerstone and foundation of the FAITH. Which granted we do need to be building upon and up from.
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    Forgiveness vs Atonement

    Further to my post, all I know is that nobody is saved and has eternal life due to their own righteousness which is a FALLEN fleshly righteousness....it FALLS short of the glory. Salvation lifts one out of their fallen righteousness into a righteousness that is holy because it is of Christ, not...
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    Forgiveness vs Atonement

    Problem is whether we are seeing Zion in a spiritual (ie heavenly) minded way (mind of Christ/Tree of LIFE ie Spirit) or a carnal minded tree of knowledge kind of way like that FALLEN serpent in the garden.
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    Forgiveness vs Atonement

    Amen. Problem with a "just love and do good gospel" is that the so called righteousness of man falls short of the glory.......one reason why mankind needs the Saviour.....because the only righteousness that is accepted and worthy of heaven is the righteousness of Christ. Which one can only...
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    Forgiveness vs Atonement

    Hmm, I see one of your followers is blindly agreeing with you again.......shouldn't truth mean something to Christians? I do not "follow" Behold. I'm kind of somewhere in the middle in a manner of speaking. I believe sound doctrine involves both the tremendous things that Jesus has wrought...
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    Forgiveness vs Atonement

    Sure hope they are not blindly and mindlessly rubber stamping everything you say when we have been told to TEST EVERYTHING.
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    Forgiveness vs Atonement

    As usual you have no scriptures or anything edifying to bring so you resort to ad hominem attacks. Scripture teaches we are to forgive others when they sin against us. And that we are not to judge others when they sin generally - God will do the judging in the end. You and your followers are...
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    Catholic Preist Sings Song About Lucifer

    Those horrendous sins are the FRUIT of that organization, which GOD has been exposing in recent years. People need to wake up and see if the fruit is evil, what kind of tree it is that is producing it. They need to stop being guided by the flesh and judging by emotions and what they see...
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    Catholic Preist Sings Song About Lucifer

    No one who knows and loves the Lord and the truth would sing those words in any language. Yes, the devil can come an angel of light (morning star), because he is fallen from that state. Counterfeit, in other words.
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    Forgiveness vs Atonement

    Bible says no one can come to Christ except the Father draws them. And it is in His hands to harden or draw a soul, as scripture also says. How can we forgive someone their overall state of sin? God is judge, to either judge or exonerate/justify a soul, not we. And He has set forth the...
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    Forgiveness vs Atonement

    The atonement was for all believers, not just "you who are spiritual." We are not our own because we were bought with a price. ie, redeemed, ransomed. Forgiveness in the sense of not judging others. God will judge in the end. I believe we can forgive specific sins and thus turn away...
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    Forgiveness vs Atonement

    To my understanding, the forgiveness that Israel received under the Law had to do with temporal curses being removed and temporal blessings being granted. But it was not a way to receive eternal life.......the Law only foreshadowed the salvation of eternal life. Temporal blessings foreshadowed...
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    Forgiveness vs Atonement

    There is no forgiveness without the atonement. Why...because God's Law has to be satisfied/fulfilled. He cannot go back on His word. It is a life for a life. And there is no remission/forgiveness of sins without the shedding of blood. Atonement means to reconcile....like in math reconciling...
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    A Spirit of Unbelief

    I agree. It doesn't seem that he understands faith very well either and seems confused. For someone who is now talking about "faith before experience" on another thread, it is strange that he denies what has already been said about that by others with regard to the foundation and what Jesus...
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    A Spirit of Unbelief

    Yes, and if it is hard even for the righteous to be saved, what will become of the ungodly and the sinner? Goodness....blindness and deception sure runs deep in some folks.
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    Believing without seeing (Faith before experience)

    Self examination is in the light of the Lord...He brings to light things we may not be able to see otherwise. "If we walk in the light as He is in the light we have fellowship one with the other and His blood cleanses us from all sin." It takes willingness, honesty and love of the truth even...
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    Believing without seeing (Faith before experience)

    No one here is denying the role that self examination plays in a believer's life. And the scripture says in context of self examination that if we would judge ourselves we will not be judged with the world.
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    Believing without seeing (Faith before experience)

    Amen. Sadly they are looking for "utopia" in the wrong place. Pollyanna fairy tales of waving and smiling at children doesn't face reality.......how many of those children will grow up to be sinners and what will their end be apart from Christ. The utopia some are trying to build cannot...
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    A Spirit of Unbelief

    Who gives to God as if God needs anything? Some scriptures below that show Jesus had set aside His deity as it were, to walk as a man, a sinless man who perfectly obeyed and submitted to and relied on the Father, the firstborn among many brethren who spear-headed as our forerunner, the same Way...
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    Believing without seeing (Faith before experience)

    You err if you believe that unity comes with our careful observation, like religious Jews and Catholics do.